Guns and Shit

[mbasic]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/20/us/sout ... index.html

People are carrying on pontoon boats. Did I miss a memo? I would not describe a leisure lake as a high crime area.

brah? ... The "High Seas" of Lake Keowee? apparently pirates and what not .

For anyone that doesn't want to clicking on the link or whatever, this one's a wild story....I'll copy-paste below.
A person being shot by another person is the very LEAST unusual/uncommon detail in this story. fuck

South Carolina prosecutors decided not to file charges in a case where a man who fell off a recreational watercraft was fatally shot by his rescuer, according to the Oconee County Sheriff's Office.
Prosecutors ruled the shooting self-defense, the sheriff's office said in a statement.

The incident occurred Tuesday afternoon, when a man and woman -- neither wearing life jackets -- fell off a Jet Ski into Lake Keowee, the sheriff's office said in an earlier news release, citing the information and evidence gathered in the investigation.
A couple on a nearby pontoon boat saw the man and woman "in distress in the water" and brought them on board, the sheriff's office said, as the Jet Ski continued doing circles in the lake.

"The man, who had been rescued, became agitated and began assaulting the couple on the pontoon," the statement said. "Investigators have been told that the man may have wanted to get back to the Jet Ski."
The rescued woman tried to de-escalate the situation by pushing the agitated man back into the water, the statement said. The couple then helped him back in the boat a second time.
Another confrontation occurred, the sheriff's office said, and the man on the pontoon boat "shot the man fearing for his and his wife's life while being assaulted."
The man died on the pontoon boat, per the sheriff's office.
Ultimately, 10th Circuit Solicitor David Wagner found the shooting was done in self-defense, per the sheriff's office, after investigators met with the solicitor's office this week to present evidence in the case.

[Philbert]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/20/us/sout ... index.html

People are carrying on pontoon boats. Did I miss a memo? I would not describe a leisure lake as a high crime area.

brah? ... The "High Seas" of Lake Keowee? apparently pirates and what not .

For anyone that doesn't want to clicking on the link or whatever, this one's a wild story....I'll copy-paste below.
A person being shot by another person is the very LEAST unusual/uncommon detail in this story. fuck

South Carolina prosecutors decided not to file charges in a case where a man who fell off a recreational watercraft was fatally shot by his rescuer, according to the Oconee County Sheriff's Office.
Prosecutors ruled the shooting self-defense, the sheriff's office said in a statement.

The incident occurred Tuesday afternoon, when a man and woman -- neither wearing life jackets -- fell off a Jet Ski into Lake Keowee, the sheriff's office said in an earlier news release, citing the information and evidence gathered in the investigation.
A couple on a nearby pontoon boat saw the man and woman "in distress in the water" and brought them on board, the sheriff's office said, as the Jet Ski continued doing circles in the lake.

"The man, who had been rescued, became agitated and began assaulting the couple on the pontoon," the statement said. "Investigators have been told that the man may have wanted to get back to the Jet Ski."
The rescued woman tried to de-escalate the situation by pushing the agitated man back into the water, the statement said. The couple then helped him back in the boat a second time.
Another confrontation occurred, the sheriff's office said, and the man on the pontoon boat "shot the man fearing for his and his wife's life while being assaulted."
The man died on the pontoon boat, per the sheriff's office.
Ultimately, 10th Circuit Solicitor David Wagner found the shooting was done in self-defense, per the sheriff's office, after investigators met with the solicitor's office this week to present evidence in the case.

Riding a Jetski with no PFD while drunk or high is likely to kill you. Apparently this remains true even if a nearby boat picks you up before you drown.

[mbasic]

I'm guessing the Captain (lolz) of the Pontoon , didn't want to take the fallen jet skier back to the ghost-riding jet ski....if memory serves me correct, the steering automatically goes to one side and the throttle just idles down and they'll just barely spin in a circle a slow rate. I remember getting back on a small one (small jet ski, Artic Cat brand) in the lake and it wasn't terrible. One person getting on a JetSki that is set up as a two-person ski shouldn't be THAT bad .... Ususally getting two people on one is bad. You could probably 'loan' him a PFD and take him to go retrieve it himself.

...but alas, its obvious at this point the guy is probably drunk....so then you're responsible if he dies on the 2nd go 'round I suppose.

...and then I guess, you've thrown down some kind of gauntlet, or insulting his JetSkimanship skills in front of his Lady by not taking him back to retake command of his ship!

I think I would pay $2 ....no $3 !!! for a fly-on-the-wall video of this whole interaction, up to and right before the gunshot.

[Philbert]

I'm guessing the Captain (lolz) of the Pontoon , didn't want to take the fallen jet skier back to the ghost-riding jet ski....if memory serves me correct, the steering automatically goes to one side and the throttle just idles down and they'll just barely spin in a circle a slow rate. I remember getting back on a small one (small jet ski, Artic Cat brand) in the lake and it wasn't terrible. One person getting on a JetSki that is set up as a two-person ski shouldn't be THAT bad .... Ususally getting two people on one is bad. You could probably 'loan' him a PFD and take him to go retrieve it himself.

...but alas, its obvious at this point the guy is probably drunk....so then you're responsible if he dies on the 2nd go 'round I suppose.

...and then I guess, you've thrown down some kind of gauntlet, or insulting his JetSkimanship skills in front of his Lady by not taking him back to retake command of his ship!

I think I would pay $2 ....no $3 !!! for a fly-on-the-wall video of this whole interaction, up to and right before the gunshot.

Exactly. It is a no win situation for Captain Pontoon from the moment he sees the two jet ski riders in the water.
Can't leave him there, duty to rescue on the water
Can't put him back on his own craft, responsible for whoever he kills with his drunken antics.
Can't keep him on the boat, he attacks .
In hindsight, the best chance for de-escalation would have been giving him a flotation device the second time he was in the water, and leaving him there.

[BostonRugger]

Riding a Jetski with no PFD while drunk or high is likely to kill you. Apparently this remains true even if a nearby boat picks you up before you drown.

Probably good to have a wetsuit over your butt as well.

https://surgicalcasereports.springerope ... 20-00993-9

"Douche injury is a rare consequence of water recreation activities. Generally, this type of trauma occurs when people fall into the water in a sitting position during high-speed activities such as using a personal watercraft (PWC). Here, we report a rare case of anorectal injury caused by water jets from a PWC during sudden acceleration from rest."

[BostonRugger]

I've gone down the AR rabbit hole the last two years. What started as one build to scratch the itch has turned into 4 builds, each successive build with better components than the last, and a fifth in process.

Latest build is going to be an 18" SPR with a Criterion barrel, ADM billet upper and lower, and Trijicon Credo 1-8x28. I'll be curious to see how this shoots compared to by current 16" REECE build with a Rosco barrel, M4E1 Upper, and Swampfox Arrowhead 1-10x24. That gun shoots 1-1.5 MOA all day with match ammo on 9 shot groups.

How do you like the Credo? Thinking of the 1-6 on a new 16" BCM.

[Jumrobe]

How do you like the Credo? Thinking of the 1-6 on a new 16" BCM.

It’s pretty nice. The 1-8 has both green and red illumination, and they’re both true daylight bright on 4/5. The segmented circle with the MRAD marked duplex is fast up close, but useable at long range. 8x eye box is more forgiving than the other LPVOs I’ve had with that top end.

Which reticle are you thinking for the 1-6?

[BostonRugger]

How do you like the Credo? Thinking of the 1-6 on a new 16" BCM.

It’s pretty nice. The 1-8 has both green and red illumination, and they’re both true daylight bright on 4/5. The segmented circle with the MRAD marked duplex is fast up close, but useable at long range. 8x eye box is more forgiving than the other LPVOs I’ve had with that top end.

Which reticle are you thinking for the 1-6?

I got the red BDC segmented circle on the 1-6. It, along with many other items, is currently in ground transit hell. Pray for my rifle, u guise

[5hout]

It, along with many other items, is currently in ground transit hell. Pray for my rifle, u guise

Thoughts and prayers

[BostonRugger]

Went to the range this afternoon. After ~250rds, I want to take a nap more than I want to lift.

It, along with many other items, is currently in ground transit hell. Pray for my rifle, u guise

Thoughts and prayers

Everything to make it go bang arrived safely (blessed). Needs a pin&weld bc MA, but then it’s good to go.

[Jumrobe]

Went to the range this afternoon. After ~250rds, I want to take a nap more than I want to lift.


Everything to make it go bang arrived safely (blessed). Needs a pin&weld bc MA, but then it’s good to go.

What did you think of the Credo?

[hsilman]

My brother asks me to look into stuff for him(not internet savvy at all) and he needs a new gun belt(ie belt to hold his pistol holster). Any recommendations that won't break the bank?

[5hout]

My brother asks me to look into stuff for him(not internet savvy at all) and he needs a new gun belt(ie belt to hold his pistol holster). Any recommendations that won't break the bank?

I recently purchased a belt from https://www.hanksbelts.com/ . I purchased their steel core belt, this is a somewhat smaller belt top to bottom (and is slightly thicker than most as a result) with a spring steel core running through most the belt. It is somewhat hard to put holster on, because of the thickness. Once on they feel rock solid, no wobble and no movement at all when drawing.

The fit and finish of the "seconds" belt I purchased (sold cheap b/c of damage) was about equal to a normal belt from a nice store. It may have been atypical, and their seconds are normally worse, but I was very pleased. If I buy another gun belt (which I may, the steel core is interesting, but has some downsides (i.e. is so stiff switching pants is a process, so basically must be installed on a pant and left there) I will go straight to Hanks again. With a semi-good holster (2 strap Alien IWB) it holds a Gov sized 1911 on one hip and a mag holder on the other hip with no problem or flexing.

[BostonRugger]

Went to the range this afternoon. After ~250rds, I want to take a nap more than I want to lift.


Everything to make it go bang arrived safely (blessed). Needs a pin&weld bc MA, but then it’s good to go.

What did you think of the Credo?

I didn't get it out to the range yet. Massachusetts upholds a version of the old AWB laws so for a rifle with removable magazine capable of BLAH BLAH BLAH, you can't have a flash hider. If it has a threaded barrel, you need a non-flash hider muzzle device pinned on so you couldn't even THINK about attaching a super killy, evil flash hider. For the health and safety of my (figurative) dog, I'm gonna take it to the gunsmith before I take it to the range.

My brother asks me to look into stuff for him(not internet savvy at all) and he needs a new gun belt(ie belt to hold his pistol holster). Any recommendations that won't break the bank?

https://www.bluealphabelts.com/product- ... edc-belts/

I have the "EDC Belt" and I really like it. The nylon webbing is very stiff. The design is such that there are three layers of it overlapped in front at 12-1 o'clock where I wear my gun. Also, using velcro instead of traditional belt holes means you have infinitely fine adjustment, allowing wearer to make it exactly tight enough to hold the gun up, but not so tight that it will dig into you. Got a little fatter or decided to get less fat? No problem, fine adjustment keeps the gun riding properly.

The "low profile" option appears to be the same thing with a different buckle. $42+shipping.

[BostonRugger]

Thinking about it, I wondered if Pioneer started making their gun belt with the "pioneer cut." They do.

Because niche forum is niche:

https://generalleathercraft.com/product ... ork-belts/

Patented design by our very own @TwoFoursStrohm. I don't have one of these, but it covers the fine adjustment thing and is available in Pioneer's leather options.

[5hout]

Thinking about it, I wondered if Pioneer started making their gun belt with the "pioneer cut." They do.

Because niche forum is niche:

https://generalleathercraft.com/product ... ork-belts/

Patented design by our very own @TwoFoursStrohm. I don't have one of these, but it covers the fine adjustment thing and is available in Pioneer's leather options.

Holy shit I didn't know that! I had actually thought of cutting a blank belt b/c I want the fine adjustment. Ordering right now.

[mikeylikey]

Would be interesting to see opinions here on the army apparently moving back to a relatively big heavy rifle shooting a big heavy bullet.

[aurelius]

Would be interesting to see opinions here on the army apparently moving back to a relatively big heavy rifle shooting a big heavy bullet.

The battle rifle! About time. 6.8mm in da house!!!!

Army had concerns over Russian and Chinese body armor reducing the effectiveness of the 5.56mm. Also, this is a weapons system complete with suppression and optics. Modern optics has improved the effectiveness of single fire in basic combat troops.

I’d be less confident if the Army didn’t have 20 years of recent infantry combat to base this ‘improved’ rifle on.

[mouse]

Late on the belt answer but these are the best around in my totally valuable opinion... I've had mine for 7+ years now, worn everyday for the most part, still great...

https://www.originalsoegear.com/collect ... ofile-belt

[mouse]

Would be interesting to see opinions here on the army apparently moving back to a relatively big heavy rifle shooting a big heavy bullet.

Will it make 5.56 more bountiful/cheaper? If so I'm all in...