Herbison's Training Log
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Nice tables!
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Re: Herbison's Training Log
Aren't they, though?
Tuesday, 16 January - The Bridge: Week 2, Day 5
| Exercise | Weight x Reps @ RPE |
| Comp Deadlift |
385x5@6 420x5@7 440x5@8 440x5@8 440x5@8 |
| Comp Bench |
240x5@6 255x5@7.5 265x5@8.5 260x5@8.5 255x5@9 245x5@8 |
Well that was... fun. Got up and was getting breakfast prior to lifting, got a call that we're doing a recall and need to be at the gym in PT gear 0700. Long story made short, I waited 5 hours to pee in a cup, because they decided to do a squadron-wide urinalysis, and our squadron has over 300 people... and they didn't have the materials printed off beforehand.
Deadlifted at home, drove in to base and had time to rush through bench before 0700. Front squats didn't happen. I tried when I got home, but for whatever reason I was just too beat up. I don't think the bit of basketball I played during that 5 hour wait would be enough to explain it, but I can't think of what else would've done it, so... maybe it was? Anyway, forced myself through warm-ups, but even 95x8x1 was actually rather painful, so I decided against them, as much as I don't like it.
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Re: Herbison's Training Log
This pretty much sums up my experience in the military so far. Do you have to do group PT?SeanHerbison wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:32 am Long story made short, I waited 5 hours to pee in a cup
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Re: Herbison's Training Log
Friday, 19 January - The Bridge: Week 3, Day 1
Not a great session (squats sucked bad), but I suppose that makes sense, since it was a rougher than usual weak. Nothing terrible, just a few annoyances that added up.
My biggest issue at the moment is that my back pain is coming back to some extent. I know my brain is causing it again, because it starts to hurt before I even do anything, but I'm having trouble with it anyway. It's not as bad as it used to be, at least. Knowing the cause lets me somewhat tamp it down, but since I don't have control over the subconscious part of my brain that's causing it, there's only so much direct action I can take.
On a different note, Mike T has updated TRAC, and it now has target/actual sections for weight, reps, and RPE, instead of just reps. So you can put in your planned workouts ahead of time, and then if you match what you planned, just hit a button and it will transfer over as what you actually did for the workout. This is great stuff, and I wish I'd found it sooner.
Anyone have any other software/apps/whatever that they think are helpful that I may not know about?
| Exercise | Weight x Reps @ RPE |
| Comp Squat |
370x5@6 390x5@7.5 405x5@8 405x5@8.5 405x5@9 |
| CG Bench |
245x4@7 260x4@8 270x4@9 270x4@9 |
| Rack Pull |
350x7@6 375x7@7 395x6@7 395x6@8 |
Not a great session (squats sucked bad), but I suppose that makes sense, since it was a rougher than usual weak. Nothing terrible, just a few annoyances that added up.
My biggest issue at the moment is that my back pain is coming back to some extent. I know my brain is causing it again, because it starts to hurt before I even do anything, but I'm having trouble with it anyway. It's not as bad as it used to be, at least. Knowing the cause lets me somewhat tamp it down, but since I don't have control over the subconscious part of my brain that's causing it, there's only so much direct action I can take.
On a different note, Mike T has updated TRAC, and it now has target/actual sections for weight, reps, and RPE, instead of just reps. So you can put in your planned workouts ahead of time, and then if you match what you planned, just hit a button and it will transfer over as what you actually did for the workout. This is great stuff, and I wish I'd found it sooner.
Anyone have any other software/apps/whatever that they think are helpful that I may not know about?
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Re: Herbison's Training Log
Sunday, 21 January - The Bridge: Week 3, Day 3
Pretty happy with paused squats today (except the last one).
Paused squats are going oddly well, and considering how bad squats were two days ago, I don't understand how that works. I'll take it, though.
Unfortunately, the same can't be said for presses. I'm consistently overshooting my RPEs there, even without the weight going up. I need to allow myself to drop the weights on the first sets though, because overdoing it there is killing what are supposed to be my heaviest sets.
Rows are just rows. Still no idea how to accurately rate them.
Pretty happy with paused squats today (except the last one).
| Exercise | Weight x Reps @ RPE |
| Paused Squat - 2 ct |
335x4@7 350x4@7.5 375x4@8.5 375x4@9 |
| Press |
155x5@7 160x5@8.5 165x5@9 155x5@8.5 135x5@8 135x5@8 |
| Barbell Row |
190x8@6 200x8@7 210x8@8 210x8@8 210x8@8 |
Paused squats are going oddly well, and considering how bad squats were two days ago, I don't understand how that works. I'll take it, though.
Unfortunately, the same can't be said for presses. I'm consistently overshooting my RPEs there, even without the weight going up. I need to allow myself to drop the weights on the first sets though, because overdoing it there is killing what are supposed to be my heaviest sets.
Rows are just rows. Still no idea how to accurately rate them.
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Tuesday, 23 January - The Bridge: Week 3, Day 5
Remember what I said about presses? Ditto on bench.
| Exercise | Weight x Reps @ RPE |
| Comp Deadlift |
405x5@6 425x5@ 445x5@8 445x5@8 445x5@8.5 |
| Comp Bench |
245x5@6 255x5@7.5 265x5@8.5 265x4@8 265x5@9 245x5@8 |
| Front Squat |
200x8@7 215x8@8 225x8@9 225x8@9 |
Remember what I said about presses? Ditto on bench.
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Friday, 26 January - The Bridge: Week 4, Day 1
I have no idea if these RPEs are accurate past the fourth squat set. Everything felt wrong even when it moved fine. Video somehow was no help.
This was the type of session that makes me rethink everything I'm doing. Unfortunately there are too many variables to be sure why it sucked so much. Is it inappropriate programming for me? Is it because I'm not sand-bagging it as much on Thursday PT anymore? Is it lack of the extra sodium I've been taking in, but stopped because I didn't see results one way or the other? Is it just because I suck at RPE?
Meh. I may not be finishing out The Bridge. Whether or not the other things are true, the first one probably is. I've done three weeks so far, and I'm not really seeing improvements. The workouts can suck while I'm doing them, but the rest of the time I feel pretty much fully recovered, so I'm probably just not doing enough work over all. I think whatever I decide on next, I'm going back to lifting at least four days per week.
I have no idea if these RPEs are accurate past the fourth squat set. Everything felt wrong even when it moved fine. Video somehow was no help.
| Exercise | Weight x Reps @ RPE |
| Comp Squat |
365x5@6 385x5@7.5 405x5@8.5 405x5@10 315x5@6.5 315x5@6.5 |
| CG Bench |
250x4@7 260x4@8.5 260x4@9.5 250x4@9 |
| Rack Pull |
315x7@7 315x7@7 315x7@7 315x7@7 |
This was the type of session that makes me rethink everything I'm doing. Unfortunately there are too many variables to be sure why it sucked so much. Is it inappropriate programming for me? Is it because I'm not sand-bagging it as much on Thursday PT anymore? Is it lack of the extra sodium I've been taking in, but stopped because I didn't see results one way or the other? Is it just because I suck at RPE?
Meh. I may not be finishing out The Bridge. Whether or not the other things are true, the first one probably is. I've done three weeks so far, and I'm not really seeing improvements. The workouts can suck while I'm doing them, but the rest of the time I feel pretty much fully recovered, so I'm probably just not doing enough work over all. I think whatever I decide on next, I'm going back to lifting at least four days per week.
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Re: Herbison's Training Log
Sounds like you don't like the Bridge even after swapping out the tempo squats for front squats. If I understand, you're not seeing yourself progressing and rather than plod on another 4 weeks, maybe add some sets, you'd rather bail out now and do something geared towards a more advanced lifter who needs more frequency. You probably need a coach to make the very best decision. It'd certainly make sense that a program intended for people coming off of a novice progression would stop working sooner for someone of your level of advancement. I know Jordan did your programming before. Would it be in line for you to ask in the BBM training forum if you're not ready to start with a coach yet? I got the templates and I'm not sure if they had it before, but now there are percentages in addition to the RPE, so after a heavy single, a percentage is dropped for the volume sets. Also there are provisions for using RPE to judge when to stop if you overshoot, which happens. Even being completely inexperienced, I felt like these things helped me feel better about decision making in situations that don't seem like they are by the book.
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I wouldn't say I don't like it. It's just not working out for me like I hoped it would, which I knew was a risk at the start. While a lot of people, mostly beginners, want way more complexity than they need, one of my weaknesses is avoiding it too much. I'd rather stick to something simple, but I'm past the point where it can be that easy, unfortunately. I don't need an advanced, super-complicated, powerlifting specific program to make progress, but I can't realistically expect to get stronger on an early intermediate program either.VikingCellist wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:30 amSounds like you don't like the Bridge even after swapping out the tempo squats for front squats.
More on that later, when I get around to logging today's session.
Yeah, I'll be deciding who I want to go with over the next couple days. Jordan did a good job before, but I want to get a new coaching perspective as part of what I'll be paying for.You probably need a coach to make the very best decision.
I'm not sure what you're asking for here.I know Jordan did your programming before. Would it be in line for you to ask in the BBM training forum if you're not ready to start with a coach yet?
Yeah, there are things I could do to make it work on my own, but honestly, it's best if I just take it out of my own hands. I'm not objective enough about my lifting, no matter how much I try. I always think I can do more than I can.[Other stuff]
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Re: Herbison's Training Log
Well, I realize my questions are unintentionally worded in a a way that they could be understood in more than one way, ie. not 1) ready for a coach or 2) not ready to make your mind up about who to go with and when to start. I meant the second one. Seeing that you were already planning to make up your mind about a coach, then it obviously makes no sense to inquire with BBM. I'm waiting with anticipation to follow your development. As far as the objectivity, that seems to be a weakness a lot of exceptional lifters have in common. Don't sweat it. Are you gonna be on IG?SeanHerbison wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:57 amI'm not sure what you're asking for here.I know Jordan did your programming before. Would it be in line for you to ask in the BBM training forum if you're not ready to start with a coach yet?
Yeah, there are things I could do to make it work on my own, but honestly, it's best if I just take it out of my own hands. I'm not objective enough about my lifting, no matter how much I try. I always think I can do more than I can.[Other stuff]
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Sunday, 28 January - The Bridge: Week 4, Day 3
Alright, I am indeed finishing up The Bridge with this workout. I knew going in that it probably wasn't an appropriate program for where I am in my training (hint: probably not early intermediate), but I wanted something simple while I got back into consistent training after some time off, and figured this would also help me adjust to keeping rest periods reasonable.
Well, it did help with that last one, actually, but aside from that, it's not going well. At best, I'm stalling in my strength progress, and I may actually be going backward a bit. More to the point with today's workout, it's beating me up during the workout, yet I'm probably not getting enough training stimulus overall, given that I feel pretty much fully recovered the rest of the time.
Except for my joints, that is. I kept the total volume for the workout the same, but cut the reps per set down due to my left shoulder bugging me. Given that I think my left shoulder and ankle were the only joints left that I hadn't had issues with at some point, I'm not a fan of this development. And it's nothing sudden to this workout. I've been feeling it building for a bit, as well as my knee and back pain building back up, and I've tried to work around it, but it's not happening.
So oh well. I'll be going back to paid coaching a few weeks sooner than I had planned. Probably KOTJ, though I'm still looking at a few others.
| Exercise | Weight x Reps @ RPE |
| Paused Squat - 2 ct |
335x2x2@6 355x2x6@7-8 |
| Press |
135x5@6 145x5@7 160x5@8 160x5@8.5 160x3x3@8 160x1@6.5 |
| Barbell Row | 185x7x6@7ish |
Alright, I am indeed finishing up The Bridge with this workout. I knew going in that it probably wasn't an appropriate program for where I am in my training (hint: probably not early intermediate), but I wanted something simple while I got back into consistent training after some time off, and figured this would also help me adjust to keeping rest periods reasonable.
Well, it did help with that last one, actually, but aside from that, it's not going well. At best, I'm stalling in my strength progress, and I may actually be going backward a bit. More to the point with today's workout, it's beating me up during the workout, yet I'm probably not getting enough training stimulus overall, given that I feel pretty much fully recovered the rest of the time.
Except for my joints, that is. I kept the total volume for the workout the same, but cut the reps per set down due to my left shoulder bugging me. Given that I think my left shoulder and ankle were the only joints left that I hadn't had issues with at some point, I'm not a fan of this development. And it's nothing sudden to this workout. I've been feeling it building for a bit, as well as my knee and back pain building back up, and I've tried to work around it, but it's not happening.
So oh well. I'll be going back to paid coaching a few weeks sooner than I had planned. Probably KOTJ, though I'm still looking at a few others.
I've been signed up for a while in order to try it out, but until recently it was with some random name. I changed it to my real name, last week I think, but I haven't posted anything yet and I don't have any plans to do so just yet.
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Re: Herbison's Training Log
Tuesday, 30 January - Light Day
No real goal today. Just lifting moderately heavy stuff without hitting @8+. Seemed to work; nothing hurt during the session, and I feel pretty good afterward. Left shoulder is bugging me just a little, but it's not bad.
I'll be working with KOTJ for coaching now. Les recommended I consider him, and I think he's a pretty smart guy, so I'm giving it a shot.
| Exercise | Weight x Reps @ RPE |
| Comp Deadlift All DOH |
315x5@<6 335x5@6 355x5@7? |
| Comp Bench |
225x5@7 225x5@7 225x5@7 |
| Paused Front Squat |
225x3@6.5 235x3@7 245x3@7.5 |
No real goal today. Just lifting moderately heavy stuff without hitting @8+. Seemed to work; nothing hurt during the session, and I feel pretty good afterward. Left shoulder is bugging me just a little, but it's not bad.
I'll be working with KOTJ for coaching now. Les recommended I consider him, and I think he's a pretty smart guy, so I'm giving it a shot.
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Came to say tables are awesome.
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I’ve had really good experience with KOTJ also. Took my bench from 300-340 in 20 weeks fwiw.
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Re: Herbison's Training Log
Do you pay @KOTJ in n00dz like everyone else?
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Jeeze, I messaged him and he ignored me!KoolaidMannn wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:25 am I’ve had really good experience with KOTJ also. Took my bench from 300-340 in 20 weeks fwiw.
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This forum has an ignore feature? Should've told Shug, maybe he would have stayed longerIdlehands wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:57 amJeeze, I messaged him and he ignored me!KoolaidMannn wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:25 am I’ve had really good experience with KOTJ also. Took my bench from 300-340 in 20 weeks fwiw.
