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Critique my "normal person general strength and fitness program"™

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 11:48 am
by Goat
I'm not really a super serious lifter anymore, not that I ever was some ultra-dedicated barbell gigachad. I'm mostly training for how it makes me feel, as well as looking good and being generally physically capable.

Here's my current (very loose) plan:

Every day stuff: long walk, one set each of push ups, pull ups and squats. The push ups and squats are done with a weight vest. This isn't really training, it's more just to get something in every day. I don't squat heavy anymore, because my groin cannot handle it. Front squat, back squat, high bar, low bar, every variation of stance width and foot position, doesn't matter. I can't actually TRAIN the squat consistently, so I've given up on it.

Actual training sessions:

Monday, heavy upper body:
Press
Pull ups
Both are done for 5-6 sets, varying the reps frequently.
Supersetting bi's and tri's


Wednesday, heavy lower body:
Sled push/pull
Farmers walks/other loaded carry
These are again both done for 5-6 "sets" (trips?)
RDL or Good Morning, probably RDL. 3-5 sets, reps usually between 6 and 12


Friday, full body power day:
Med ball throws (no idea how to program these yet, I heard 30 throws total is a good idea)
Power Cleans, 5-12 sets of 1-3 reps. Going to vary these around a lot.
Plyometric push ups. Not 100% how I'll program these exactly, probably just gonna start with like 5 sets of as many reps as possible before I start to slow down.

Sunday:
1 hour+ of slow long distance. If there's snow, I'll ski cross country. If there's no snow, I'll ride my bike or go rowing on the river. If the weather is terrible, get on my old rowing machine and go until I get bored.


Anyway, does this sound totally dumb?

Re: Critique my "normal person general strength and fitness program"™

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:14 pm
by DanCR
Can you do goblet squats? Grossly underrated variation.

Regardless no I don’t think your program is dumb, given that you said at the outset that you’re just looking for some good feelz and jackedness. I absolutely would do RDLs for your hinge, rather than GMs; I can’t see any good reason to gamble on the risk of GMs if you aren’t using them to build a squat or DL.

Also, I’d add all kinds of curls because they take little time and you might as well have big biceps and be awesome.

Re: Critique my "normal person general strength and fitness program"™

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:18 pm
by Shaun
If upper body hypertrophy (muscle size) is a goal, you'll almost certainly do better with more upper body work. A second, and perhaps even third, day wouldn't go amiss. You could add them to Weds and Friday even.

What equipment do you have access to?

Re: Critique my "normal person general strength and fitness program"™

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:15 am
by Goat
Shaun wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:18 pm If upper body hypertrophy (muscle size) is a goal, you'll almost certainly do better with more upper body work. A second, and perhaps even third, day wouldn't go amiss. You could add them to Weds and Friday even.

What equipment do you have access to?
I figured the daily weighted push ups and pull ups would work as "extra volume" for the upper body, but we'll have to see what happens. Maybe I could add some more bodybuilding on friday.

I only have a bar and a pull up bar, and some dumbbells. Building my sled and farmers handles. It's currently so icy I won't be able to start on those for a few weeks yet.

Re: Critique my "normal person general strength and fitness program"™

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:16 am
by Goat
DCR wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:14 pm Can you do goblet squats? Grossly underrated variation.

Regardless no I don’t think your program is dumb, given that you said at the outset that you’re just looking for some good feelz and jackedness. I absolutely would do RDLs for your hinge, rather than GMs; I can’t see any good reason to gamble on the risk of GMs if you aren’t using them to build a squat or DL.

Also, I’d add all kinds of curls because they take little time and you might as well have big biceps and be awesome.

Goblet squats are definitely an option, maybe I could throw in a high rep set or two at the end of my lower body day.

Re: Critique my "normal person general strength and fitness program"™

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:30 am
by CheekiBreekiFitness
Your goals are so broad it's quite difficult to make meaningful criticism, I think.

Re: Critique my "normal person general strength and fitness program"™

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:58 pm
by Shaun
Goat wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:15 am
Shaun wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:18 pm If upper body hypertrophy (muscle size) is a goal, you'll almost certainly do better with more upper body work. A second, and perhaps even third, day wouldn't go amiss. You could add them to Weds and Friday even.

What equipment do you have access to?
I figured the daily weighted push ups and pull ups would work as "extra volume" for the upper body, but we'll have to see what happens. Maybe I could add some more bodybuilding on friday.

I only have a bar and a pull up bar, and some dumbbells. Building my sled and farmers handles. It's currently so icy I won't be able to start on those for a few weeks yet.
You're right, daily weighted push ups and pull ups will definitely help with hypertrophy - I missed that, sorry.

Re: Critique my "normal person general strength and fitness program"™

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:52 pm
by mgil
What equipment do you have access to?

Re: Critique my "normal person general strength and fitness program"™

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:59 pm
by broseph
Sounds pretty old school and badass. And it looks like it agrees with your stated goals.

I love upper body lifting, so I'd probably have another day of that, but I don't think you're in danger of losing any gainz with this program. I'd love to know if you get much upper body hypertrophy from it though.

I think the daily single sets of pushups, pullups, and squats is interesting and I'm excited to see how it all goes if you end up doing this.

Re: Critique my "normal person general strength and fitness program"™

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:15 pm
by mgil
Be Saitama

Re: Critique my "normal person general strength and fitness program"™

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:47 pm
by Goat
mgil wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:52 pm What equipment do you have access to?


I only have a bar and a pull up bar, and some dumbbells. Building my sled and farmers handles. It's currently so icy I won't be able to start on those for a few weeks yet.

Re: Critique my "normal person general strength and fitness program"™

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:13 pm
by broseph
mgil wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:15 pmBe Saitama
I’m glad someone made this reference.

Re: Critique my "normal person general strength and fitness program"™

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:51 pm
by mgil
Goat wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:47 pm
mgil wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:52 pm What equipment do you have access to?
I only have a bar and a pull up bar, and some dumbbells. Building my sled and farmers handles. It's currently so icy I won't be able to start on those for a few weeks yet.
Gotcha.

I’d cycle a lot of DLs in. Seriously. Do them light and slow. Do sumo. Do them with deliberately low hips to increase ROM. Most of my lower body work is trap bar deadlifts, with a little bit of sumo, occasional goblet squats (often on a bosu ball), and infrequent SSB squats. Pulls have put size back on my thighs and butt, but you gotta work the eccentric.

Re: Critique my "normal person general strength and fitness program"™

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:01 pm
by Goat
Thanks for the responses, folks!

Re: Critique my "normal person general strength and fitness program"™

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:39 pm
by mgil
One more thing…

You can likely tolerate 2 days of pulls a week with smart planning. I’m consistently pulling 40-50 reps on DL per week at a minimum.

Re: Critique my "normal person general strength and fitness program"™

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:02 pm
by cole
Here's how I can tell you are not normal: you have actual bad ass, effective movements in your program and its put together with some thought.

Here's what a normal person fitness routine is:

15 min on elliptical
15 min on treadmill while watching news
15 minutes of machines circuit with reps of 15-20