Leaving false strength conventions behind
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Thanks.CamLeslie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:53 am I own it. I've only used it a handful of times but it definitely hits the quads. Seems to be constructed well and does what it says it will. I used it on my deadlift days for a little extra leg work without having to load up the bar. I have the SPUD dip belt that I use with it since it doesn't have a belt.
Thanks for the input, these are all great points.TimK wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 5:03 pm Haven't used it but just looking at it I would say it's ridiculously short. The shorter the lever arm, the more of an arcing path you're going to have with the weight. If the arm is longer it's a lot closer to feeling like a straight up and down movement. The other issue is that the weight is pretty much in the middle of the arm so you're only going to get ~50% resistance of whatever you load. Depending on how strong you are and what types of plates you have, you might not be able to load enough weight for anything other than very high reps. And with 45's on there, with such a short arm, they might be in the way and force a wide stance. May not be a problem for you depending on your build and normal stance width but if you were thinking of using a narrow stance with more forward knee travel (maybe with elevated heels) it might not be possible.
I've experimented a lot with homemade belt squat setups and I would say longer is pretty much better as far as the movement, it's just a matter of what you can practically make work with your space and materials. I view this design and similar commercially available pieces that are comically short as blatant bandwagon cash-grabs. Shorter = cheaper to build and ship = more profit, at the expense of the movement quality.
But again, haven't used it.
I own it and this is right on. Lever arm is way too short, and loaded to max capacity I can still easily hit 25+ reps with the thing even with a pause in the hole. Have tried adding bands but that doesn't work very well given the angles and the short stroke. The stance width with 45s is also an issue as Tim noted.TimK wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 5:03 pm Haven't used it but just looking at it I would say it's ridiculously short. The shorter the lever arm, the more of an arcing path you're going to have with the weight. If the arm is longer it's a lot closer to feeling like a straight up and down movement. The other issue is that the weight is pretty much in the middle of the arm so you're only going to get ~50% resistance of whatever you load. Depending on how strong you are and what types of plates you have, you might not be able to load enough weight for anything other than very high reps. And with 45's on there, with such a short arm, they might be in the way and force a wide stance. May not be a problem for you depending on your build and normal stance width but if you were thinking of using a narrow stance with more forward knee travel (maybe with elevated heels) it might not be possible.
I've experimented a lot with homemade belt squat setups and I would say longer is pretty much better as far as the movement, it's just a matter of what you can practically make work with your space and materials. I view this design and similar commercially available pieces that are comically short as blatant bandwagon cash-grabs. Shorter = cheaper to build and ship = more profit, at the expense of the movement quality.
But again, haven't used it.
Why? Have you used one with a longer lever arm?janoycresva wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:45 pm IMO all of these lever-based belt squats suck total dick
i've used the BOS one and the wenning style one, not sure if those count as long-lever, but both pulled me forward at the bottom in a really unpleasant wayTimK wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:36 amWhy? Have you used one with a longer lever arm?janoycresva wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:45 pm IMO all of these lever-based belt squats suck total dick
