stuffedsuperdud wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:15 pmIf this is out of left field then maybe I'm crazy too, as this was also actually my first thought, as my instagram-slacktivist friends lost their shit about patriarchy and misogyny
. Things like patriarchy and misogyny are still forms of societal ideals, which I don't think our leaders actually have; as far as I care, they are too craven and nihilistic to pursue anything higher than raw domination of others by controlling the money and natural resources. If this means checking the cockbags in Beijing, I imagine an unwanted underclass born to impoverished women from red states will be handy at soaking up Chinese artillery without anyone missing them too badly. How coincidental is it that this is happening just as the other guys end their n-child policy?
I'm not at all disagreeing with you, but -- if I'm understanding correctly -- you're suggesting that this is basically a national strategy to ensure enough pawns/proles for future economic wars against Chi-nuh? And we, as a nation, aren't necessarily worried about feeding or being able to sustain the extra numbers because, to be blunt, we don't need to?
And the legal/moral arguments for or against abortion are basically smokescreens for the populace to argue over something that's obstructing the real elephant in the room?
For what it's worth, I can agree that there's not some deliberate cabal of menfolk gathered around a table brainstorming how best to stick it to the womens just for tradition's sake. My use of the word "patriarchy" may have been a little too, uh, pointed (it carries enough established connotations that the "p" might as well be capitalized), which is a small point that I think
@dw and I were disagreeing over.
But yeah, if the broader "we," collectively, are able to decide when to throw more coals in the baby-making ovens -- or when to put them on ice -- I still see that as inherently misogynistic in the case of birth control, if not "intentionally" so, though that's arguably neither here nor there.
And that kind of authority over reproductive rights as a whole doesn't gel with the national identity we've pretended to cultivate over two and a half centuries (and probably is no longer relevant, where global consequences are concerned).
. Things like patriarchy and misogyny are still forms of societal ideals, which I don't think our leaders actually have; as far as I care, they are too craven and nihilistic to pursue anything higher than raw domination of others by controlling the money and natural resources. If this means checking the cockbags in Beijing, I imagine an unwanted underclass born to impoverished women from red states will be handy at soaking up Chinese artillery without anyone missing them too badly. How coincidental is it that this is happening just as the other guys end their n-child policy?