Fat loss Periodisation
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:01 am
Hi Guys, how much truth is their in periodization of fat loss ala mike isratel, are such long diet pauses really necessary and limiting diets to 12 weeks
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This video has, similar to a lot of content made more for continuing education than for gen pop issues, very nuanced takeaways. Hard to sum up a 30+ min video but here goes:
I have observed a somewhat similar phenomenon personally. It seems cutting for longer than about 3 months seems to cause more rapid muscle loss. My next cut will be 8 weeks of cutting followed by 4 weeks of maintenance for this reason. Just seems like the body is more ready to lose muscle after a more prolonged deficit. Not sure if I am doing something wrong, but I have observed this happening multiple times.CaptainAwesome wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:57 am My own personal experience has found sharp drop-offs in progress when cutting weight after 3-4 months of constant deficit. Granted, these were hard deficits. There were stretches where I lost 3 pounds a week (not just the initial transitory weight loss that comes when you get started cutting). Don't have a lot of experience with gentler weight cuts. I'm doing one now, simply because I got over 300 again. I'm already back under, but I wanna keep going a little bit, see if it's adversely affecting my lifting. The next time I try a big cut I'm going to experiment with a maintenance phase. I have seen at least one anecdote from my personal life where maintenance after a large weight loss did what it was supposed to.
Could just be since I tend to cut hard, I haven't tried a long but slow one before. Hormonal shit definitely went on, I've seen it in blood panels. Had a no-shit low-t diagnosis when I was that long into a cut. Not the often liberal diagnosis you get from TRT clinics. 150 ng/dl or so. The kind of result that will even get a very reserved GP to do something. TSH was also pretty damn high too, if I recall. Definitely not an "all in your head" thing like some people think.quikky wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 10:24 amI have observed a somewhat similar phenomenon personally. It seems cutting for longer than about 3 months seems to cause more rapid muscle loss. My next cut will be 8 weeks of cutting followed by 4 weeks of maintenance for this reason. Just seems like the body is more ready to lose muscle after a more prolonged deficit. Not sure if I am doing something wrong, but I have observed this happening multiple times.CaptainAwesome wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:57 am My own personal experience has found sharp drop-offs in progress when cutting weight after 3-4 months of constant deficit. Granted, these were hard deficits. There were stretches where I lost 3 pounds a week (not just the initial transitory weight loss that comes when you get started cutting). Don't have a lot of experience with gentler weight cuts. I'm doing one now, simply because I got over 300 again. I'm already back under, but I wanna keep going a little bit, see if it's adversely affecting my lifting. The next time I try a big cut I'm going to experiment with a maintenance phase. I have seen at least one anecdote from my personal life where maintenance after a large weight loss did what it was supposed to.