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Re: MarkKO's training log

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Post by Renascent » Fri Feb 03, 2023 10:37 pm

MarkKO wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 10:07 pm
Renascent wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:55 pm
MarkKO wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:08 pmI'm not really sure what's going on right now but in practical terms it doesn't really matter.
Whatever it is ... it happens sometimes.

When too much shit is in flux, sometimes it's kinda hard to have lifting be the only anchor, and, as you said, you might have to redirect your energies for a time until you know mentally that you can move forward with hobby stuff.

Comp deadlines aside, it'll always be there when you come back to it.

Anyway... congrats on the job offer!
It blows my mind just how in demand trades are right now. It's nice to be in a position where the market favours the employee, or at least evens the balance. It also doesn't look like that will change for the next five to 10 years with the combination of construction somewhat booming and there being fewer and fewer people getting trade qualifications.
Was just having this conversation with someone a few days ago.

Can't program AI to learn a trade!

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Re: MarkKO's training log

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Post by MarkKO » Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:04 pm

Renascent wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 10:37 pm
MarkKO wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 10:07 pm
Renascent wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:55 pm
MarkKO wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:08 pmI'm not really sure what's going on right now but in practical terms it doesn't really matter.
Whatever it is ... it happens sometimes.

When too much shit is in flux, sometimes it's kinda hard to have lifting be the only anchor, and, as you said, you might have to redirect your energies for a time until you know mentally that you can move forward with hobby stuff.

Comp deadlines aside, it'll always be there when you come back to it.

Anyway... congrats on the job offer!
It blows my mind just how in demand trades are right now. It's nice to be in a position where the market favours the employee, or at least evens the balance. It also doesn't look like that will change for the next five to 10 years with the combination of construction somewhat booming and there being fewer and fewer people getting trade qualifications.
Was just having this conversation with someone a few days ago.

Can't program AI to learn a trade!
Not really, no.

Or rather, I don't see why you couldn't program an AI to learn a trade but getting the AI to do the work is a whole different matter.

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Post by BenM » Sat Feb 04, 2023 2:15 pm

Congrats on the new job. It's nice to be in demand - you've only been in your current one for ~18 months or so haven't you? I think you went there a few months before I changed?

Work stress / dissatisfaction is absolutely a real thing that affects recovery (I've been feeling it too lately) so hopefully the change works out well for you.

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Post by MarkKO » Sat Feb 04, 2023 3:06 pm

BenM wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 2:15 pm Congrats on the new job. It's nice to be in demand - you've only been in your current one for ~18 months or so haven't you? I think you went there a few months before I changed?

Work stress / dissatisfaction is absolutely a real thing that affects recovery (I've been feeling it too lately) so hopefully the change works out well for you.
Thanks.

Ten months, actually. I don't regret the move because it did exactly what I wanted which was let me learn another side of the industry; and my current job is a good employer, I can't fault them in that respect at all. The work is just boring and doesn't change. I won't get any better staying there because what they do is limited to putting fairly basic kitchens, wardrobes and vanities together and sending them off to install.

But like you say, dissatisfaction is a thing for sure because it doesn't matter how good your pay and conditions are if the work makes you die a bit inside.

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Post by BenM » Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:58 pm

Must've been almost exactly the same time as me then, I thought you were a bit earlier.

Hopefully the new job is more satisfying, it's absolutely no fun when you're not learning anything new and always doing similar things. It's one of the big reasons I left my last job too.

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Post by MarkKO » Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:35 pm

BenM wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:58 pm Must've been almost exactly the same time as me then, I thought you were a bit earlier.

Hopefully the new job is more satisfying, it's absolutely no fun when you're not learning anything new and always doing similar things. It's one of the big reasons I left my last job too.
It should be. Where I'm at now mass produces joinery for units mostly, and the work reflects that. About a third of the work is individual houses, either new or renos but the approach and materials are pretty much identical. Anything that isn't whiteboard or melamine colourboard is pretty much outsourced, installation is done by subcontractors. So I almost never get to touch any veneer or do anything with curves and angles and definitely never do any work with solid timber. It's basically square cupboards and nothing else.

All the angles, curves, veneer and timber and installation work is where the challenge and growth is and is what I learned at my previous job. I miss it, and is what I need to be doing to grow.

The new place does almost exclusively new builds and does the entire joinery package which will always include veneer and solid timber and is all bespoke. So yeah, it's exactly what I need to be doing. The bonus is that the two guys I used to work with who went across wouldn't be there if the work was boring. As best I can tell this is somewhere I'll be able to grow.

It's good to have learned how the mass production side works, but staying there would stunt me.

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Post by MarkKO » Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:30 pm

Went for another walk with the weighted vest, because I really enjoyed yesterday and somehow in my head doing that is giving my back an easy ride back into holding load. I also walked up the stairs yesterday with my stepson and his friend over my shoulder and between them they'd be around 200 lbs so there's that too.

Anyway, same exact route as yesterday except this time I manually recorded it on my Galaxy watch but put the same pace on.

More exact measurement is 2.2 kilometres which today took me 20 minutes and 32 seconds so much faster but HR was around the same.

I think I might well keep doing this. I have no idea if this is a 'good' time for walking that distance with an extra 44 lbs nor how much it'll improve my conditioning if at all but I doubt it'll hurt anything.

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Post by MarkKO » Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:11 am

Spent the day waiting for that official job offer email, which made for a frustrating day. I'll wait until mid tomorrow and if I haven't seen anything contact the guy. I'm not handing in notice on a verbal offer, because that isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

Ended up having time to train though.

However what with where my head was at I ended up not really warming up, and did exactly what I did on Thursday which was 15 leg raises, some pull aparts and 25 hand curls. I also just loaded the bar with the working weight. I need to stop doing that because I won't keep getting away with it.

Monday bench
5x5x237 lbs in six minutes and 40 seconds which by my standards is really pretty good
10, 6, 5, 5 pullups
3x15 pushups on the cambered multigrip bar
3x10/side x 88 lbs single arm DB rows which just seemed appropriate because they always give me a great stretch in my glutes and hamstrings which right now is helpful. I'm not sure what that says about how I perform the lift, but its sticking around.
2x50 facepulls



The weighted vest walking seems to have done a bunch to help my back in that the tightness is all but gone, but the discomfort in the glute is still there. From where I sit this is a net improvement.

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Post by MarkKO » Tue Feb 07, 2023 12:10 am

Halfway through the day the letter came through, and everything suddenly got a lot better. However, fitting off a wall bed from inside the wall is not pleasant no matter how good a mood you're in but a free sauna is a free sauna I suppose.

I decided to up the ante and do NO warmup at all because surely that would be the best way to squat for the first time in about 10 days during which you've been nursing a tight back.

Tuesday squat
5x5x407 lbs in 10 minutes and ELEVEN GOODAMN SECONDS fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck and all because I slacked off the pace between the first three sets. Fuck. This is definitely a stupidity PR because I've never hit 407 lbs cold before and to my surprise it felt totally fine.
2x12 hanging leg raises
2x25 back raises
2x25x132 lbs lat pulldown
75 facepulls



Anyway, that was a pretty good session and I'm quite annoyed with myself for missing the 10 minutes because I absolutely could have moved faster between the first three sets but I didn't so it is what it is.

I also will not push my luck any further and will resume normal warming up going forward because, well, obvious reasons.

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Post by BenM » Tue Feb 07, 2023 12:22 am

I lol'd a little bit. But you didn't hurt yourself, so that's ok.

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Post by MarkKO » Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:21 pm

BenM wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 12:22 am I lol'd a little bit. But you didn't hurt yourself, so that's ok.
Yeah, that would have been bad timing in the extreme. As it is I'm walking a relatively fine line with this lower back/hip/glute thing as it is.

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Post by MarkKO » Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:47 pm

Well, that brings the accumulation part of this cycle to a close. I was going to train yesterday but walked in, heard the BS religious garbage music the wannabe priest who I also suspect is a budding white supremacist who trains at the gym plays every time here's there, in the dark; and promptly walked out. I was not in the mood to be around that shit.

Disclaimer: if you are religious I would suggest not reading any further, just FYI. I respect your right to believe what you like and don't want to needlessly upset you.

Some context, I've seen this guy around the gym periodically. Keeps to himself, always wears the exact same jumper even in the heat and seems to train a little before I do so there's some crossover. Overheard him talking about possibly being called to the ministry so figured he's insane but that's his business and made a mental note to avoid talking to him just in case he tried to convert me. If he's the first one in the gym he trains in the dark, and even though he wears headphones plays very obviously proselytising music on the stereo, which is annoying but there you go. I generally take it as read that most devoutly religious people have zero self awareness so it doesn't surprise me. I was talking to my mate who I train with there a few weeks back and this all came into the conversation and he mentioned this dude said to him in passing how a band he likes couldn't come to Aus because of their political views and then mentioned how he lurks on 'national socialist' forums and I'm pretty sure there's another term for national socialists. It also turns out one reason he's still training at the gym is that he thinks it might let him connect with people to bring into the church. Again, mentally ill and with zero self awareness at best.

So I may be barking up the wrong tree but there's quite a lot there that points towards a conclusion that not only is this dude insane but a racist piece of shit.

I'm not a confrontational person unless I have to handle business, and unless I can actually see this fuckwit obviously being what I'm pretty sure he is I can't do much but I don't really like being around shit, so I try to avoid him.

Anyway, that's my story.

I figured I'd train today instead but I'm tired AF and since peak starts next week there doesn't seem to much point to go for one session just to say I've gone.

This last block has been not all that I wanted it to be, but given how it kicked off I'm not complaining. All I have to do now is string a reasonable peak together and I cam get down to the business of shedding some fluff and building back up. I'm in a reasonably good position to post a better total, and quite possibly hit 1543 lbs if I can keep everything together and do what I need to on the day.

I'm going to look at doing quite a short, aggressive cut so that I can still have a reasonable maintenance adjustment period before building back up. Provisionally I'm looking at taking 12 weeks or so to drop as close to 198 lbs as I can reasonably get, which would be drop rate of just under two pounds a week. That isn't nothing.

My thinking is that previously I've always had long, slow diets. Often they've lasted well over six months. Works well, isn't overly onerous; BUT means I lose a lot of time and training isn't really going to be as productive. This time I want to try short and aggressive. I know it means I'll risk losing more muscle; but I think because I'll be training as close to normally as possible I should be able to mitigate that.

Then I take around three months to adjust my set point; maybe six, but that would be OK. Because experience dictates I can train very productively while technically maintaining, with a super slow rate of growth. This is what I ended up doing last time around.

What I'm looking at is after the meet at 220 lbs, take three months to drop fat then three to six months to adjust and then have a run at another meet at 220 again in about a year, where if I manage everything right I should be able to pick up just about where I left off and just be down the bottom of the 220s rather than the top. Then over the coming two years or so work back to the top of the weight class and hopefully not need to really cut down again.

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Post by Renascent » Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:51 pm

MarkKO wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:47 pm Well, that brings the accumulation part of this cycle to a close. I was going to train yesterday but walked in, heard the BS religious garbage music the wannabe priest who I also suspect is a budding white supremacist who trains at the gym plays every time here's there, in the dark; and promptly walked out. I was not in the mood to be around that shit.
Is he one of those assholes who wheels in their own speaker(s)?

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Post by MarkKO » Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:46 pm

Renascent wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:51 pm
MarkKO wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:47 pm Well, that brings the accumulation part of this cycle to a close. I was going to train yesterday but walked in, heard the BS religious garbage music the wannabe priest who I also suspect is a budding white supremacist who trains at the gym plays every time here's there, in the dark; and promptly walked out. I was not in the mood to be around that shit.
Is he one of those assholes who wheels in their own speaker(s)?
No, that at least is one thing I can't accuse him of.

The gym has always had a stereo hooked up to a laptop with Spotify and a pair of big speakers that have coloured LEDs. Either Mark the owner puts on music when he opens, or whoever lets themselves in first puts something on. Usually it's some fairly generic metal, occasionally hip hop or some random upbeat playlist.

I've put music on twice over the years I've been there, because I'm just not comfortable playing music I like in a space where it isn't just me, and I don't really like the idea of music when training anyway. I think once I played Spiritual Beggars because I was talking to someone about music and they asked what I would normally listening to; and once recently Motorhead because I wanted to hear something other than music extolling the virtues of a zombie rabbi.

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Post by MarkKO » Sat Feb 11, 2023 6:02 pm

After a 12 hour sleep I feel myself again. Last two weeks were not great what with the work stress etc impacting my sleep which is a major aspect of my mental health, and by the end of this week I was spiralling. Especially yesterday.

All better now. I can deal with a fair bit before it impacts me, but if my sleep gets impacted I'm pretty screwed.

Went for a walk with the weighted vest, partly to just do something; partly because I'm starting to look at it as a good way to maintain/possibly improve conditioning and want to run with doing it once at least every weekend to see how it works; and partly because of how much better it made my back feel the day after and I have a couple of reasonable heavy singles to squat tomorrow.

Same route, because that makes things measurable.

Took almost a whole minute off last week's time (2.17 km in 19 minutes 34 seconds today compared to 2.2 km in 20 minutes and 32 seconds last Sunday), with average HR the same but max HR way lower as well. Can't complain about that. In a few weeks I'll have enough data to get an idea of what my average speed and HR for that route is.

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Post by Hardartery » Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:41 pm

Renascent wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:51 pm
MarkKO wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:47 pm Well, that brings the accumulation part of this cycle to a close. I was going to train yesterday but walked in, heard the BS religious garbage music the wannabe priest who I also suspect is a budding white supremacist who trains at the gym plays every time here's there, in the dark; and promptly walked out. I was not in the mood to be around that shit.
Is he one of those assholes who wheels in their own speaker(s)?
Just to be clear, my feelings mirror both of you regarding that stupidity, and I actually am a religious person. Those people piss me off, if they put any effort into actually displaying the qualities that go woth the faith they purport to have... instead they are dinks hiding behind a shield of pretentious religion to give them room to be exactly the opposite of what they should be. And "Religious" music just sets me off. So, no offense taken by me at all, I agree with you regarding this sort of douchebaggery.

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Post by MarkKO » Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:37 pm

Hardartery wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:41 pm
Renascent wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:51 pm
MarkKO wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:47 pm Well, that brings the accumulation part of this cycle to a close. I was going to train yesterday but walked in, heard the BS religious garbage music the wannabe priest who I also suspect is a budding white supremacist who trains at the gym plays every time here's there, in the dark; and promptly walked out. I was not in the mood to be around that shit.
Is he one of those assholes who wheels in their own speaker(s)?
Just to be clear, my feelings mirror both of you regarding that stupidity, and I actually am a religious person. Those people piss me off, if they put any effort into actually displaying the qualities that go woth the faith they purport to have... instead they are dinks hiding behind a shield of pretentious religion to give them room to be exactly the opposite of what they should be. And "Religious" music just sets me off. So, no offense taken by me at all, I agree with you regarding this sort of douchebaggery.
I can imagine that I would feel much the same if I was religious myself. In fact, I can see how you would be really, really pissed off because they make a mockery of something very important to you.

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Post by MarkKO » Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:23 pm

Peak week one is here. Actually felt pretty good all day and going in, but warming up just couldn't feel my abs. That happens sometimes, I have no idea why.

Monday squat
2x1x507 lbs, back held up and some minor discomfort in the left knee. Not convincing bar speed though.
0x0x336 lbs paused squats, because I kind of switched off and decided it wasn't worth the risk to back or knee. Tried using the belt squat machine for this but it made BOTH knees feel like they were about to explode.
2x25 facepulls
2x15 back raises



This was a very meh start to the peak.

I had another rep in each single, but I'm not particularly pleased with the bar speed.

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Post by Hardartery » Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:42 am

MarkKO wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:23 pm Peak week one is here. Actually felt pretty good all day and going in, but warming up just couldn't feel my abs. That happens sometimes, I have no idea why.

Monday squat
2x1x507 lbs, back held up and some minor discomfort in the left knee. Not convincing bar speed though.
0x0x336 lbs paused squats, because I kind of switched off and decided it wasn't worth the risk to back or knee. Tried using the belt squat machine for this but it made BOTH knees feel like they were about to explode.
2x25 facepulls
2x15 back raises


This was a very meh start to the peak.

I had another rep in each single, but I'm not particularly pleased with the bar speed.
I agree, the bar speed is slow. I feel you.

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Post by MarkKO » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:10 pm

Hardartery wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:42 am
MarkKO wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:23 pm Peak week one is here. Actually felt pretty good all day and going in, but warming up just couldn't feel my abs. That happens sometimes, I have no idea why.

Monday squat
2x1x507 lbs, back held up and some minor discomfort in the left knee. Not convincing bar speed though.
0x0x336 lbs paused squats, because I kind of switched off and decided it wasn't worth the risk to back or knee. Tried using the belt squat machine for this but it made BOTH knees feel like they were about to explode.
2x25 facepulls
2x15 back raises


This was a very meh start to the peak.

I had another rep in each single, but I'm not particularly pleased with the bar speed.
I agree, the bar speed is slow. I feel you.
I'm going to have to make a call within the next couple of weeks. If bench and deadlift move better, that would be good.

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