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In other Covid humor, my sister received a notification yesterday, ostensibly from the NYS DOH, that her Covid test was positive. She last submitted a sample for Covid in 2021

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ready-anothe ... 00301.html

Stay Afraid! Ermagerd! WINTER IS COMING. OMG fearrrr pornnn gooooooo.

5hout wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 4:07 pm https://www.yahoo.com/news/ready-anothe ... 00301.html

Stay Afraid! Ermagerd! WINTER IS COMING. OMG fearrrr pornnn gooooooo.

How come I don’t hear public urging for boosters anymore?

Toward the end they were suggesting Covid boosters would be like flu vaccines, something we would get every year. But wherever that messaging was coming from, it seems to have died.

hector wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:02 pm How come I don’t hear public urging for boosters anymore?

Toward the end they were suggesting Covid boosters would be like flu vaccines, something we would get every year. But wherever that messaging was coming from, it seems to have died.

Stay tuned--the new CDC director said last week in an interview she expects the CDC to come out with an annual booster recommendation in the near future, and that numerous drug companies were working hard on getting updated variant-specific boosters.

Wife's family went to Vietnam for a "vacation". (wife did not go; the whole family is all ethnically Vietnamese, fluent in it, etc).
They do this about every 3 to 5 years. ..... about 20 of them go as a big group.

They took a 18 month old little girl with them this time.
Its was really hot (imagine that!).
The girl "got sick" and started to have quasi-seizures or something-something.
Girl had a fever of 104 or everyone freaked out.

They took her to the "hospital".
"Staff" tested her and said she had the covids. (IMO, she was probably dehydrated)

Family commented that you could NOT tell who were the doctors, nurses, or janitors ..... everyone was dressed the same, everyone with no gloves, no masks, or anything. They really couldn't tell that they were in a medical/health care facility of any kind. Very little regard for sanitation, etc. So called "doctor" did not seem very doctory or educated.

The "Staff" told them they would have to quarantine for six days. lol
The one cousin, who is the alpha bitch, went off on the staff, and said they had a plane to catch in two days.
The "staff" then said (paraphrasing) you sure to hell are NOT getting on a plane.
The cousin said they would get/rent a car or something and leave the country that way (Thailand, Laos, cambodia ??? etc, fucken lolz)

Funny that they want them to quarantine for 6 days, but then everyone at the "hospital" is all lah-dee-dah with regards to interacting with them, other patents, and whatnot .... Wife family is pretty sure it was a scam to collect more moeny out of (relatively) super wealthy American tourists. 6 more days in hotel, 6 more days food, etc.

So I guess in the end they escaped eventually....

I guess everyone is scared to go back now.

"CIA tried to pay off analysts to bury findings that COVID lab leak was likely: whistleblower"

https://nypost.com/2023/09/12/cia-tried ... ign=nypost

mbasic wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:17 am "CIA tried to pay off analysts to bury findings that COVID lab leak was likely: whistleblower"

https://nypost.com/2023/09/12/cia-tried ... ign=nypost

Not questioning the claim at all. No idea what to make it. Definitely believe it’s possible. I just don’t understand the motivation.

Why would the CIA want to push the false narrative that Covid was not of Wuhan lab origin?

hector wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:43 am

mbasic wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:17 am "CIA tried to pay off analysts to bury findings that COVID lab leak was likely: whistleblower"

https://nypost.com/2023/09/12/cia-tried ... ign=nypost

Not questioning the claim at all. No idea what to make it. Definitely believe it’s possible. I just don’t understand the motivation.

Why would the CIA want to push the false narrative that Covid was not of Wuhan lab origin?

The obvious answer would be that CIA has biological weapns projects running at Wuhan lab which they do not want interrupted nor their involvement in uncovered. I am not proposing this as fact, but as the most obvious conspiracy theory for a CIA coverup of Wuhan lab.

Philbert wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 11:26 am

hector wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:43 am

mbasic wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:17 am "CIA tried to pay off analysts to bury findings that COVID lab leak was likely: whistleblower"

https://nypost.com/2023/09/12/cia-tried ... ign=nypost

Not questioning the claim at all. No idea what to make it. Definitely believe it’s possible. I just don’t understand the motivation.

Why would the CIA want to push the false narrative that Covid was not of Wuhan lab origin?

The obvious answer would be that CIA has biological weapns projects running at Wuhan lab which they do not want interrupted nor their involvement in uncovered. I am not proposing this as fact, but as the most obvious conspiracy theory for a CIA coverup of Wuhan lab.

Covid, if it were a biological weapon, would be one that kills chiefly those who are old and have multiple comorbidities. So doesn’t seem like it would hold an edge over smallpox or tularemia or anthrax.

And if you wanted to make a biological weapon, why not make it in a super secret BSL4 at a controlled location, like Fort Detrick?

Adding Chinese nationals into the mix, at a facility the USG cannot as easily or directly control and monitor, seems like an incredible security risk for a USG agency to take.

hector wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 1:04 pm

Philbert wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 11:26 am

hector wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:43 am

mbasic wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:17 am "CIA tried to pay off analysts to bury findings that COVID lab leak was likely: whistleblower"

https://nypost.com/2023/09/12/cia-tried ... ign=nypost

Not questioning the claim at all. No idea what to make it. Definitely believe it’s possible. I just don’t understand the motivation.

Why would the CIA want to push the false narrative that Covid was not of Wuhan lab origin?

The obvious answer would be that CIA has biological weapns projects running at Wuhan lab which they do not want interrupted nor their involvement in uncovered. I am not proposing this as fact, but as the most obvious conspiracy theory for a CIA coverup of Wuhan lab.

Covid, if it were a biological weapon, would be one that kills chiefly those who are old and have multiple comorbidities. So doesn’t seem like it would hold an edge over smallpox or tularemia or anthrax.

And if you wanted to make a biological weapon, why not make it in a super secret BSL4 at a controlled location, like Fort Detrick?

Adding Chinese nationals into the mix, at a facility the USG cannot as easily or directly control and monitor, seems like an incredible security risk for a USG agency to take.

The idea would be either that it's just one product in a line of research exploring different possibilities, or that it was indeed an end product but designed to be more disruptive than lethal (for example if introduced to a barracks during a war).

dw wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 1:15 pm

hector wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 1:04 pm

Philbert wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 11:26 am

hector wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:43 am

mbasic wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:17 am "CIA tried to pay off analysts to bury findings that COVID lab leak was likely: whistleblower"

https://nypost.com/2023/09/12/cia-tried ... ign=nypost

Not questioning the claim at all. No idea what to make it. Definitely believe it’s possible. I just don’t understand the motivation.

Why would the CIA want to push the false narrative that Covid was not of Wuhan lab origin?

The obvious answer would be that CIA has biological weapns projects running at Wuhan lab which they do not want interrupted nor their involvement in uncovered. I am not proposing this as fact, but as the most obvious conspiracy theory for a CIA coverup of Wuhan lab.

Covid, if it were a biological weapon, would be one that kills chiefly those who are old and have multiple comorbidities. So doesn’t seem like it would hold an edge over smallpox or tularemia or anthrax.

And if you wanted to make a biological weapon, why not make it in a super secret BSL4 at a controlled location, like Fort Detrick?

Adding Chinese nationals into the mix, at a facility the USG cannot as easily or directly control and monitor, seems like an incredible security risk for a USG agency to take.

The idea would be either that it's just one product in a line of research exploring different possibilities, or that it was indeed an end product but designed to be more disruptive than lethal (for example if introduced to a barracks during a war).

Sounds possible.

Or maybe they were investigating adding the Furin Cleavage site as part of weapons research, and the Furin Cleavage Site would be added to a more lethal virus (or additional deadly traits) in the event they wanted a more powerful weapon.

Whatttttt

5hout wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 4:35 pm

Whatttttt

And from a guy whose Twitter address alludes to Fight Club.

5hout wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 4:35 pm

Whatttttt

I ended up reading his tweets going back years. I just couldn’t stop. Just… holy shit.

DCR wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 1:03 pm

5hout wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 4:35 pm [link]
Whatttttt

I ended up reading his tweets going back years. I just couldn’t stop. Just… holy shit.

I know! His twitter is better than 9 out of 10 books I read for sheer entertainment.

hector wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 1:30 pm

dw wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 1:15 pm

hector wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 1:04 pm

Philbert wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 11:26 am

hector wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:43 am

mbasic wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:17 am "CIA tried to pay off analysts to bury findings that COVID lab leak was likely: whistleblower"

https://nypost.com/2023/09/12/cia-tried ... ign=nypost

Not questioning the claim at all. No idea what to make it. Definitely believe it’s possible. I just don’t understand the motivation.

Why would the CIA want to push the false narrative that Covid was not of Wuhan lab origin?

The obvious answer would be that CIA has biological weapns projects running at Wuhan lab which they do not want interrupted nor their involvement in uncovered. I am not proposing this as fact, but as the most obvious conspiracy theory for a CIA coverup of Wuhan lab.

Covid, if it were a biological weapon, would be one that kills chiefly those who are old and have multiple comorbidities. So doesn’t seem like it would hold an edge over smallpox or tularemia or anthrax.

And if you wanted to make a biological weapon, why not make it in a super secret BSL4 at a controlled location, like Fort Detrick?

Adding Chinese nationals into the mix, at a facility the USG cannot as easily or directly control and monitor, seems like an incredible security risk for a USG agency to take.

The idea would be either that it's just one product in a line of research exploring different possibilities, or that it was indeed an end product but designed to be more disruptive than lethal (for example if introduced to a barracks during a war).

Sounds possible.

Or maybe they were investigating adding the Furin Cleavage site as part of weapons research, and the Furin Cleavage Site would be added to a more lethal virus (or additional deadly traits) in the event they wanted a more powerful weapon.

Here's my theory.

China was working on a bioweapon. Maybe it wasn't "done" yet. It got out. China being china .... a few people got sick in a small dense area. Panic set it because "SARS redux!!! ". Everyone went to the hospital at the same time. Hive mind mentality because China....


China's gov't knows a bioweapon got out. But they didn't know what it would do exactly, to who, how, or, what demographic it would affect most, etc. China didn't know it would mostly kill old or old-&-sick people primarily. BioWeapon hadn't been tested or finalized. So the CCP gov't freaked out. see: Hard lock downs, etc. Blame it on pangolins, etc.

Media and rest-of-the-world hysteria, and politics made a bad flu season (covid) seem about 5 to 10 times worse that what it really was.
Sure some people died, moreso than normal, sure.
But the CFR/IFR was only a bit worse than the common Flu.....4x worse is not a lot.

It ran thru most of the World in about 1-1/2 to 2 years.
CCP-China doesn't BELIEVE ANYTHING the rest of the world reports on, or reports on themselves.....China, being the ultimate liar themselves or whatever just thinks lying to the Nth degree is the status quo everywhere.
Probably figuring the deaths in "the West" are 2x to 10x HIGHER than whats reported.....that's why locked down so hard the 2nd time, to the detriment of their own economy. Who knows the long term outcomes of covid? or the massive vaccine program?
Seems like excess deaths is still up in a lot of places....its up with the not-older-population segments also.
China can ill afford to lose ANY their breeding population whatsoever right now.
Hard lockdown bro! Hard!
But could not keep the lockdowns going ......

Re: CIA thing.
CIA handles international matters; FBI is local (intra-USA).
China lab received US gov't funding from US, Fauci's departments, etc to research viruses, etc....for disease control.
But China was making bioweapons.
CIA pays off scientists so attention isn't brought to US having a hand in the gain-of-function-research.

"Bioweapon" worked sorta. USA might have a whole generation of kids who are 2-3 years behind in education....might be a tad bit retarded.

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less advanced in mental, physical, or social development than is usual for one's age.

mbasic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 3:41 pm
"Bioweapon" worked sorta. USA might have a whole generation of kids who are 2-3 years behind in education....might be a tad bit retarded.

School attendance is still down. The effects of covid and the lockdowns are going to reverberate for a long time.
https://fortune.com/2023/08/11/school-c ... stay-home/

There will also be long-lasting effects on certain age groups due to their social development being disrupted. I use the example of a feral cat. If a feral cat gives birth to kittens in your back yard there is a window lasting only several weeks where those kittens can be socialized and taught to trust humans. If that period is missed they will always be skittish or downright wild despite anyone's efforts to tame them. Of course human development is more complex and socialization window is longer but it is not a stretch to say that a couple years of lockdowns and other disruptions and the hiding of facial expressions, which are large part of human communication, behind masks will not have long-lasting or permanent effects.

Culican wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:41 am School attendance is still down. The effects of covid and the lockdowns are going to reverberate for a long time.
https://fortune.com/2023/08/11/school-c ... stay-home/

There will also be long-lasting effects on certain age groups due to their social development being disrupted. I use the example of a feral cat. If a feral cat gives birth to kittens in your back yard there is a window lasting only several weeks where those kittens can be socialized and taught to trust humans. If that period is missed they will always be skittish or downright wild despite anyone's efforts to tame them. Of course human development is more complex and socialization window is longer but it is not a stretch to say that a couple years of lockdowns and other disruptions and the hiding of facial expressions, which are large part of human communication, behind masks will not have long-lasting or permanent effects.

The massive proliferation and the quasi-normalization of "online schooling" ....because of covid.... has contributed big time.

Wife's cousin has not put her kid back into school since covid.
The kid is even moreso socially maladjusted than he would be otherwise ...
... was just a tad nerdy or whatever. Now? .... aw man I feel bad for him. (e.g. no friends/acquaintances/classmates)
Also I / we thinks its a convenience (better said: lazy) thing too....the kids parents are
divorced and both remarried. They share/rotate custody.
Now, neither one of the parents have to shuttle him to school across town.
Both parents have good/decent incomes, and it wasn't killing them to do this BEFORE 2020....
....but now its just toooooo convenient for the kid to log on, and have "school" anywhere.
He'll be able to drive himself in another year or two, but after several years of online classes, I
doubt he'll go back to any kind of traditional in person schooling.

My son has 3 friends who have dropped out of high school over the last 3 years, and all are doing "virtual" now fill time.
You would have never heard of these things before 2020.

Culican wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:41 am

mbasic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 3:41 pm
"Bioweapon" worked sorta. USA might have a whole generation of kids who are 2-3 years behind in education....might be a tad bit retarded.

School attendance is still down. The effects of covid and the lockdowns are going to reverberate for a long time.
https://fortune.com/2023/08/11/school-c ... stay-home/

There will also be long-lasting effects on certain age groups due to their social development being disrupted. I use the example of a feral cat. If a feral cat gives birth to kittens in your back yard there is a window lasting only several weeks where those kittens can be socialized and taught to trust humans. If that period is missed they will always be skittish or downright wild despite anyone's efforts to tame them. Of course human development is more complex and socialization window is longer but it is not a stretch to say that a couple years of lockdowns and other disruptions and the hiding of facial expressions, which are large part of human communication, behind masks will not have long-lasting or permanent effects.

100% anecdotal, but the kids are getting more "normal" by the year, at least at my middle school. You might be surprised how quickly they can adjust compared to us old folks that are set in our ways. Sure, some things will stick with them, maybe even permanently, but they're mostly back to their "normal", hormone-poisoned, selves here. Or at least seem to be.