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Re: Let's go to war or not: Iran Edition

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:23 pm
by DoctorWho
Idlehands wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:32 am
DoctorWho wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:30 am
Idlehands wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:19 am
BostonRugger wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:08 am
DoctorWho wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:45 am
BostonRugger wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:13 pm Yeah, @DoctorWho your joke failed the “is it funny?” test for acceptability of racial/ethnic/religious/protected-class humor. Didn’t quite hit the right note. You’ll get em next time, champ.
I usually don't work with people who are uncomfortable with telling me that I'm wrong. Pretty good chance that I'm wrong a lot and seek out being told so in the offline world.
Ok. Would you have told that joke at work? Would your colleagues have been alright with it or would it have made one or more of them uncomfortable?
On here, it seems to me that people disagree with others as part of an on-line relationship of related squabbles, which makes taking things personally even more wrongheaded.
I'm not sure I understand your meaning here.

So you'll understand if I don't care much about your view of what is acceptable.
This I 100% understand. Your joke still wasn't funny.
Am I missing something ? He doesn’t work with people who tell him he’s wrong , and doesn’t like online people with more of a propensity to tell him he’s wrong so he dismisses being told he’s wrong in situations where it arises ?

A tells B he is wrong and <b>bad</b>. A's view depends on knowing the heart and mind of B. Should A's views be taken seriously?
telling right there isn't it. Are you saying you hear you're wrong and think your bad? It's ok man, you have value. I'm sorry you hear bad when people say your wrong. Do you need more hugs?
I know what you're going for homes, but it's too much of a stretch. Obtuse, the charge against me, = annoyingly insensitive, stupid, dull. Even if you disagree that this is a comment calling me "wrong and bad" ("insensitive" is not bad?), my point still holds: your friend's conclusion relies on the reader reading my mind.

Your comment repeats this major error by relying on what you think is going on in my mind. ("I'm sorry you hear . . . "). I trust you understand why arguing on this basis is unjustified.

I'm enjoying the "need more hugs" thing though. (Do you know I argue (in a way) for a living?) My hunch is that you are a nice person in real life because you are just-not-good at personal insults.

Re: Let's go to war or not: Iran Edition

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:47 pm
by Idlehands
DoctorWho wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:23 pm
Idlehands wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:32 am
DoctorWho wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:30 am
Idlehands wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:19 am
BostonRugger wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:08 am
DoctorWho wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:45 am
BostonRugger wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:13 pm Yeah, @DoctorWho your joke failed the “is it funny?” test for acceptability of racial/ethnic/religious/protected-class humor. Didn’t quite hit the right note. You’ll get em next time, champ.
I usually don't work with people who are uncomfortable with telling me that I'm wrong. Pretty good chance that I'm wrong a lot and seek out being told so in the offline world.
Ok. Would you have told that joke at work? Would your colleagues have been alright with it or would it have made one or more of them uncomfortable?
On here, it seems to me that people disagree with others as part of an on-line relationship of related squabbles, which makes taking things personally even more wrongheaded.
I'm not sure I understand your meaning here.

So you'll understand if I don't care much about your view of what is acceptable.
This I 100% understand. Your joke still wasn't funny.
Am I missing something ? He doesn’t work with people who tell him he’s wrong , and doesn’t like online people with more of a propensity to tell him he’s wrong so he dismisses being told he’s wrong in situations where it arises ?

A tells B he is wrong and <b>bad</b>. A's view depends on knowing the heart and mind of B. Should A's views be taken seriously?
telling right there isn't it. Are you saying you hear you're wrong and think your bad? It's ok man, you have value. I'm sorry you hear bad when people say your wrong. Do you need more hugs?
I know what you're going for homes, but it's too much of a stretch. Obtuse, the charge against me, = annoyingly insensitive, stupid, dull. Even if you disagree that this is a comment calling me "wrong and bad" ("insensitive" is not bad?), my point still holds: your friend's conclusion relies on the reader reading my mind.

Your comment repeats this major error by relying on what you think is going on in my mind. ("I'm sorry you hear . . . "). I trust you understand why arguing on this basis is unjustified.

I'm enjoying the "need more hugs" thing though. (Do you know I argue (in a way) for a living?) My hunch is that you are a nice person in real life because you are just-not-good at personal insults.
why did you feel the need to say what you did for a living ?

Re: Let's go to war or not: Iran Edition

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:24 pm
by murphyreedus
Bcharles123 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:40 am Could you summarize? Then select a panel to arbitrate. That would be a good use of time. I can’t follow it all and feel like I’m missing something good.
Two crabapples arguing about nothing while poor @mbasic tries vainly to keep thread on topic. You're not missing much.

aurelius wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:57 am I feel like this has at least 2 more pages of material to be written.
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Re: Let's go to war or not: Iran Edition

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:29 pm
by Mkgillman
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Re: Let's go to war or not: Iran Edition

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:07 pm
by aurelius
murphyreedus wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:24 pmImage
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Re: Let's go to war or not: Iran Edition

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:52 am
by DoctorWho
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why did you feel the need to say what you did for a living ?
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Just to save you some time. You're not cutting deeply and I hope I'm not either.

Re: Let's go to war or not: Iran Edition

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:56 am
by DoctorWho
murphyreedus wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:24 pm

Two crabapples arguing about nothing while poor @mbasic tries vainly to keep thread on topic. You're not missing much.

aurelius wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:57 am I feel like this has at least 2 more pages of material to be written.
The highlighted comment is correct.

Re: Let's go to war or not: Iran Edition

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:28 am
by Idlehands
DoctorWho wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:52 am
why did you feel the need to say what you did for a living ?
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Just to save you some time. You're not cutting deeply and I hope I'm not either.
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that was a legit question. it's the kind of comment I hear where someone says "I'm the expert" that makes me immediately become more skeptical and dismissive. Does that add value or impact to the discussion? Using discussion here loosely

Re: Let's go to war or not: Iran Edition

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:01 am
by DoctorWho
Idlehands wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:28 am
DoctorWho wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:52 am
why did you feel the need to say what you did for a living ?
Just to save you some time. You're not cutting deeply and I hope I'm not either.
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that was a legit question. it's the kind of comment I hear where someone says "I'm the expert" that makes me immediately become more skeptical and dismissive. Does that add value or impact to the discussion? Using discussion here loosely
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I agree. "I'm the expert" can just mean "I'm out of arguments."

Re: Let's go to war or not: Iran Edition

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:25 pm
by BostonRugger
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/trump-s ... ships.html

Is Trump banging the drum to rally the base or is this some 3D chess to prop up oil prices? Might make for good Youtube regardless.

Also, the Iranian Navy appears to be like 8 dudes with .50 cals mounted on a Grady White.

Re: Let's go to war or not: Iran Edition

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:01 pm
by mgil
Shoot down ships

Re: Let's go to war or not: Iran Edition

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:04 am
by mbasic
mgil wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:01 pmShoot down ships
'member when he used the air-torpedo thingy on the one kernel guy in Irak ?

Re: Let's go to war or not: Iran Edition

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:40 am
by JonA
mbasic wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:04 am
mgil wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:01 pmShoot down ships
'member when he used the air-torpedo thingy on the one kernel guy in Irak ?
yeah, and then they responded by sinking an airplane.

Re: Let's go to war or not: Iran Edition

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:51 am
by mbasic
I don't member the sinking of an aeroplain.

I member the rocket-bombs dropping on our cavalry camps.

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There are/were some up sides to having a Commander in Chief that was former military....
....like, combat military.

Not saying that is an end all be all thing, but

Re: Let's go to war or not: Iran Edition

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:04 pm
by mbasic
man, this war thing is taking quite the effort to get going

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-55128970

Re: Let's go to war or not: Iran Edition

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:33 am
by mbasic
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/15/iraq-ro ... -says.html

gahhh !!! .... can't wait until this chinavirus thing subsides and we get back to warring

Re: Let's go to war or not: Iran Edition

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:58 am
by aurelius
mbasic wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:33 amgahhh !!! .... can't wait until this chinavirus thing subsides and we get back to warring
Not to diminish this but...the 'worst' picture they could show is a couple of broken windows? That's just Friday Night Protest here in 'Merica. They are going to have to up their game if they want a war.

Re: Let's go to war or not: Iran Edition

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:13 am
by Skander
Handy guide for next time we resurrect the thread:
https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/how ... licymakers

Re: Let's go to war or not: Iran Edition

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:53 am
by mbasic

Re: Let's go to war or not: Iran Edition

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 7:54 am
by BostonRugger
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/1 ... the%20fray.

A twitter account called "Does John Bolton Want to Bomb Iran Today?" that simply posts "Yes" every day at 12:01AM.