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[aurelius]

Talent on Rams won out. This game should not have been this close.

- Bengals legit scored 13 points. Bengals got 7 points from an obvious offensive PI. Don't know how that is not called.
- Bengals were allowed to be very handsy in the secondary all day. From routinely holding receivers out of breaks to several times Rams receivers were attempting one handed grabs because Bengals secondary were holding their other hand.
- McVay was outcoached on the offensive side of the ball.

McVay plays it too safe in big games. Bengals were simple defensively. Ran a zone shell/some man-zone with 2-3 deep rolling coverage to Kupp and rushing 4 giving up underneath throws. Rams should have used pre-snap motion with Kupp to force Bengals to commit to coverage pre-snap. Bengals run defense depended on aggressive DT and linebackers playing downhill into gaps. The way to punish that aggression is with jet sweeps, pitch plays, and screen plays. Instead McVay just kept running right into the aggression of the Bengals for little effect. I don't remember a single screen and only one jet sweep on the 4th down call on the last drive. They also started to move Kupp pre-snap on the last drive. An offensive genius like McVay should have made those adjustments in the first half.

Bengals were scrappy but really Burrow and Co. put up 10 points. Not great. 7 points were from a clear PI and 3 were the defense forcing a turnover. Of course the Rams defensive line featured 2 hall of famers (one possibly the best defensive player who ever lived). I don't really know what the Bengals could have done once Aaron Darnold decided no more points (the Rams second half adjustment on defense was spectacular). Pray to an unforgiving god?

[Hanley]

Totally accurate:

[aurelius]

Totally accurate:

I enjoyed the half time show (nostalgia) but I was curious as to who it was supposed to appeal to. I don't see a bunch of 40 somethings being convinced to watch football because 50 cent was hanging upside down during half-time.

Best half-time shows:
1) Prince
2) Left Shark
3) Everyone else

[GrainsAndGains]

It was for anyone born from 1975 to 1990 - the youngest Gen Xers, geriatric millennials and normal millennials, plus Kendrick Lamar for young millennials. I'm not even a huge Eminem fan but every white guy my age knows the opening lines of Em's Forgot About Dre verse by heart.

I would still rank Prince's halftime show at #1, but this one was a close second.

[BostonRugger]

- Bengals legit scored 13 points. Bengals got 7 points from an obvious offensive PI. Don't know how that is not called.

Between that egregious non-call and the ticky-tack PI on the Rams final drive 3rd and goal from the 8, the refs left a stink on that game.

[aurelius]

Between that egregious non-call and the ticky-tack PI on the Rams final drive 3rd and goal from the 8, the refs left a stink on that game.

The only questionable call in real time was the holding. But slow motion showed the Bengals LB grab and rotate the WR's hips at the break altering the route. That is defensive holding. Apple just straight up grabbed and then tackled Kupp on the PI in the end zone. Those should be called. And those calls did not award the Rams points like the missed face mask (offensive PI). The Rams still had to execute and put the ball in the end zone.

The Bengals chose to execute an aggressive defensive game plan that required PI and holding. Something the Patriots made popular going back to their first Superbowl. They assumed the refs would not call it. Well the refs called it when it mattered. If the refs had called it all game the Rams would have won by 2+ scores. Fuck any Bengal's apologists.

One can take issue with the refs letting obvious PI and holding go the majority of the game but then call it the last 2 minutes. Personally, I have an issue with refs swallowing the whistle in big games. If the NFL wants to allow defensive secondary's to rough up receivers all over the field then change rules to allow that (pre 2000's football). Offenses would adjust (run different schemes and routes). But this unspoken 'PI and holding don't get called in big games' only favors teams that will break the rules. Example Patriots. They didn't beat the Rams 'greatest show on turf' with an amazing defense or some genius level scheme. They just fouled the Rams receivers all over the field. That is terrible to allow the championship to be decided that way.

[BostonRugger]

One can take issue with the refs letting obvious PI and holding go the majority of the game but then call it the last 2 minutes.

That’s exactly it for me. Refs establish a strike zone, so to speak, over the course of a game. Deviating late in the game is poor officiating. So between that and the face mask which put the Rams on the back foot, blergh. Lotta bullshit immediately surrounding ~1/3 of either team’s total points.

[aurelius]

That’s exactly it for me. Refs establish a strike zone, so to speak, over the course of a game. Deviating late in the game is poor officiating. So between that and the face mask which put the Rams on the back foot, blergh. Lotta bullshit immediately surrounding ~1/3 of either team’s total points.

A reasonable position. I'd arguing Apple tackling Kupp for the PI should be called no matter what. The holding over the middle had been going on all game.

[mbasic]

Wilson to Broncos

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/russ ... -approval/

[mouse]

Wilson to Broncos

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/russ ... -approval/

For literally all the tea in China...

I think Seattle might have gotten a few of Denver's janitors too...

[mbasic]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tom-brady- ... 00000-nfl/

Lol

[Hiphopapotamus]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tom-brady- ... 00000-nfl/

Lol

That is pretty damn funny.

[mbasic]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tom-brady- ... 00000-nfl/

Lol

That is pretty damn funny.

I guess the joke is on us .... I would think a guy who would spend 500,000K on a souvenir football (or whatever we're gonna call this) it probably wealthy enough to where it doesn't really matter. Would be like me buying a $25,000 OU shotgun or something (or say a $1,400 barbell I've never used). It might in one way, be an infamous football now. Its the fake-retirement football.

Now if that someone is just a Pats-Brady-fan/joe-six-pack guy, and say took out a loan against his $1.2M 1800 sq.ft. home in Santa Barbara, CA to buy a half mil dollar football .... then yeah, its "funny".

Otherwise, I think Brady is a fool. Odds are it doesn't end well. Should retired after the last SB he won. /capt.hindsite
Then again, who are we to judge?

[mouse]

I guess the joke is on us .... I would think a guy who would spend 500,000K on a souvenir football (or whatever we're gonna call this) it probably wealthy enough to where it doesn't really matter.

Yeah that's the way I look at it... turned out to be a bad investment for sure, but that's more money than a mere peasant like I will ever see in life so... joke's on me...

Otherwise, I think Brady is a fool. Odds are it doesn't end well. Should retired after the last SB he won. /capt.hindsite
Then again, who are we to judge?

Barring some freak injury or something I don't see how it 'doesn't end well'. He's still playing at a relatively high level and it depends on who TB keeps and puts around him. I doubt LA will be the monster it was this past season, I can't think of any other team in the NFC right now that would be a mega threat besides GB and well... ya know.

It's not like Brady is becoming a shell of his former self and over staying his welcome or anything.

Roethlisberger comes to mind.

[mouse]

Von Miller just broke that he's coming to Buffalo on IG and I'm shitting myself right now...

[Hanley]

Von Miller just broke that he's coming to Buffalo on IG and I'm shitting myself right now...

Holy shit. That's awesome.

[DCR]

I’m happy with the Trubisky signing, as a stop gap at least.

The Watson deal is an obscenity. Of course, there’ve been endless obscenities and I keep watching.

[aurelius]

I'm watching my Cowboys get worse. Mazeltov to those that support teams whose front offices are actively making their teams better.

[mbasic]

[mouse]

Any questions?