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Farmers carry

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Post by Allentown » Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:00 am

I like doing these. They look cool, and that's all that matters. I'm curious how other people have found farmer carry weight to relate to deadlift maxes? My short term goal was for a 400lb farmer carry for 40y, but I tested last night and got ~380. PR deadlift was ~585 last Oct, haven't actually been deadlifting recently though.

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Re: Farmers carry

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Post by cwd » Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:58 am

I used sandbag carries for conditioning for a while, I liked them.

No measurable effect on my barbell lifts that I ever noticed though.

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Re: Farmers carry

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Post by Allentown » Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:34 am

cwd wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:58 am I used sandbag carries for conditioning for a while, I liked them.

No measurable effect on my barbell lifts that I ever noticed though.
I don't know that there will be a carryover to barbells, but lets be honest, isn't the reason we use barbells is for the carryover into things like picking stuff up, carrying it, moving it?
I have started carrying my 90lb heavy bag on my shoulders for some laps of the neighborhood, I get some weird looks but it gets the heart rate up a bit. I'd like some proper sandbags, though!

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Post by cwd » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:01 am

Allentown wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:34 am I have started carrying my 90lb heavy bag on my shoulders for some laps of the neighborhood, I get some weird looks but it gets the heart rate up a bit. I'd like some proper sandbags, though!
Yeah, it's amusing to the neighbors. But not as noisy as I imagine pushing a prowler would be.

I bought a pack of 20 nylon erosion-control sandbags, several sacks of clean landscaping gravel, and a heavy-duty mil-surp nylon duffel bag.
Fill each little sandbag with 20lbs of gravel and tie it off.
Now you have an incrementally-loadable duffel bag, that isn't dusty.

It's not as nice as the Rogue equivalent -- it's floppy as there's no filler material to plump out the duffel.
And you probably shouldn't do the Crossfit thing where you throw it at the ground repeatedly.
But it's very cheap.

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Re: Farmers carry

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Post by Allentown » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:08 am

What I REALLY want is the Rogue Atlas Stone sandbag. But with handles I could attach if I wanted?

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Post by Manveer » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:09 am

Allentown wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:34 amI don't know that there will be a carryover to barbells, but lets be honest, isn't the reason we use barbells is for the carryover into things like picking stuff up, carrying it, moving it?
No! It's all about lifting weight to lift heavier weight - in the gym! Don't compromise my recovery by making me actually pick up something heavy IRL.

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Post by Allentown » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:12 am

Manveer wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:09 am
Allentown wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:34 amI don't know that there will be a carryover to barbells, but lets be honest, isn't the reason we use barbells is for the carryover into things like picking stuff up, carrying it, moving it?
No! It's all about lifting weight to lift heavier weight - in the gym! Don't compromise my recovery by making me actually pick up something heavy IRL.
If I start using the phrase "functional strength" just ban me.

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Post by Kregna » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:56 am

The strongman that I know can do more than their max deadlift in total weight (both hands). I've gone up to less than my max DL, but this wasn't at my limit

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Post by lehman906 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:01 pm

Kregna wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:56 am The strongman that I know can do more than their max deadlift in total weight (both hands). I've gone up to less than my max DL, but this wasn't at my limit
Absolutely. I’ve never pulled more than 545, but have walked with 320/hand. Just, you know, not all that far.

Should be getting some handles soon. I don’t have much weight at the house, but I can condition and practice speed and turns with 200-ish/hand.

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Post by Kregna » Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:13 am

lehman906 wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:01 pm
Kregna wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:56 am The strongman that I know can do more than their max deadlift in total weight (both hands). I've gone up to less than my max DL, but this wasn't at my limit
Absolutely. I’ve never pulled more than 545, but have walked with 320/hand. Just, you know, not all that far.

Should be getting some handles soon. I don’t have much weight at the house, but I can condition and practice speed and turns with 200-ish/hand.
320's a good farmers walk!

I'll also say, I've seen some guys with deadlifts similar to mine or greater, who do worse on farmers (speed/distance with the same weight), so it's not based entirely on deadlift strength

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Post by lehman906 » Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:07 am

Kregna wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:13 am
lehman906 wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:01 pm
Kregna wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:56 am The strongman that I know can do more than their max deadlift in total weight (both hands). I've gone up to less than my max DL, but this wasn't at my limit
Absolutely. I’ve never pulled more than 545, but have walked with 320/hand. Just, you know, not all that far.

Should be getting some handles soon. I don’t have much weight at the house, but I can condition and practice speed and turns with 200-ish/hand.
320's a good farmers walk!

I'll also say, I've seen some guys with deadlifts similar to mine or greater, who do worse on farmers (speed/distance with the same weight), so it's not based entirely on deadlift strength
Total transparency: I didn't get very far with the 320.

Absolutely it's not all deadlift strength, and I would argue that it's such a different movement that there is less carryover from deadlift to farmers than there is to stones or to a lesser extent tire flip. There's obviously an athleticism and familiarity aspect to farmers (and other moving events) that can make good athletes with less static strength often better at strongman.

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Post by Allentown » Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:39 am

Man I need to work some space into my programming to do these, I miss them.

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Post by broseph » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:27 am

Allentown wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:39 am Man I need to work some space into my programming to do these, I miss them.
Especially since you have so much extra time and empty training slots!

I made those DIY handles last year and have used them once. This thread MIGHT help motivate me to start using them.

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Post by Allentown » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:48 am

broseph wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:27 am Especially since you have so much extra time and empty training slots!

I made those DIY handles last year and have used them once. This thread MIGHT help motivate me to start using them.
I'll just load them up and carry them when I walk the neighborhood with the kid. :lol:

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Post by lehman906 » Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:45 pm

Allentown wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:39 am Man I need to work some space into my programming to do these, I miss them.
Titan has some handles listed for $89, so a quick order and a trip to Play it Again in my future. I’ll probably do them on the MM press day as GPP.

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Post by Allentown » Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:36 am

Yeah I could put it in as my conditioning.

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Re: Farmers carry

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Post by Skander » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:19 am

Allentown wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:48 am
broseph wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:27 am Especially since you have so much extra time and empty training slots!

I made those DIY handles last year and have used them once. This thread MIGHT help motivate me to start using them.
I'll just load them up and carry them when I walk the neighborhood with the kid. :lol:
After we had our kid, I started doing lots of suitcase carries to train carrying a car seat. Those things are disproportionately heavy feeling.

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Re: Farmers carry

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Post by broseph » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:23 am

Skander wrote: Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:19 am
Allentown wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:48 am
broseph wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:27 am Especially since you have so much extra time and empty training slots!

I made those DIY handles last year and have used them once. This thread MIGHT help motivate me to start using them.
I'll just load them up and carry them when I walk the neighborhood with the kid. :lol:
After we had our kid, I started doing lots of suitcase carries to train carrying a car seat. Those things are disproportionately heavy feeling.
When we had our twins, I loaded them up each in a carrier to take them out of the hospital and the nurses were asking "you're just going to carry them like that?"

I don't know what else I supposed to do?

But yeah, I think they feel extra heavy because your hands are so far out from center. And you can't bang them about or drop them. This also adds difficulty.

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Re: Farmers carry

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Post by Skander » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:54 pm

broseph wrote: Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:23 am
Skander wrote: Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:19 am
Allentown wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:48 am
broseph wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:27 am Especially since you have so much extra time and empty training slots!

I made those DIY handles last year and have used them once. This thread MIGHT help motivate me to start using them.
I'll just load them up and carry them when I walk the neighborhood with the kid. :lol:
After we had our kid, I started doing lots of suitcase carries to train carrying a car seat. Those things are disproportionately heavy feeling.
When we had our twins, I loaded them up each in a carrier to take them out of the hospital and the nurses were asking "you're just going to carry them like that?"

I don't know what else I supposed to do?

But yeah, I think they feel extra heavy because your hands are so far out from center. And you can't bang them about or drop them. This also adds difficulty.
I love when you see some 200# husband watching his 110# wife trying to carry one. Yo, wake up dude.

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Post by Allentown » Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:32 am

Skander wrote: Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:54 pm I love when you see some 200# husband watching his 110# wife trying to carry one. Yo, wake up dude.
I don't know what it is, technique or something, but my wife can hold our kid for approximately 100 times longer than I can without acting like her arms are going to fall off. I pretend it's because my huge muscles use so much more energy.

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