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Re: Greens

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Post by mbasic » Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:22 am

I boil the broccoli, but barely as CWD says . . .

. . . mince up some garlic, mixed with lemon juice, a little olive oil, salt and pepper.
Make a dressing out of that.

Put it on the broccoli after its drained, but while its still hot.

yummy. I can eat a shit ton like this. Kids like it too.

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Post by Allentown » Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:26 am

Idlehands wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:20 am This actually sounds like something I can. Get behind. How to negate the teeth feeling covered by fuzz of spinach ?
Cup of water. Swish it around a little once you choke down the bolus of fiber.
I also do this at work, but with a fork. Sometimes I catch a coworker staring at me out the office window as I push the fourth forkful of greens into my still full mouth. But it's usually just someone who I've heard whine "I just can't eat healthy, I don't like vegetables! That's why I eat Hot Pockets for lunch every day." Yeah, I don't love it either. But I handle it, because I'm a grown-up and that's what grown-ups do, I keep telling myself.

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Re: Greens

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Post by cwd » Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:36 am

Idlehands wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:20 amHow to negate the teeth feeling covered by fuzz of spinach ?
Spinach is just OK, I also dislike the mouth feel of it.

Try one of these, they are all better IMO: chard, kale, collard greens, mustard greens, cabbage, Brussels sprouts, beet greens.

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Re: Greens

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Post by quark » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:48 am

cwd wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:40 am
KyleSchuant wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:36 pm Who the fuck wants to eat boiled broccoli?
Don't boil the shit out of your broccoli, it turns grey and mushy.

Frozen broccoli, microwave 3 minutes until just hot but still a bit crunchy and bright green. Salt. Yum.
Or even without salt. Microwave time depends on quantity cooked.

I'm partial to Birds Eye baby broccoli florets.

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Post by Allentown » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:42 am

quark wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:48 am Or even without salt. Microwave time depends on quantity cooked.

I'm partial to Birds Eye baby broccoli florets.
I like Costco Normandy Vegetable bag of frozen broccoli/carrots/parsnips or something, probably something else I am forgetting? Get it out of the freezer the night before, hopefully it's thawed by lunchtime. Microwave for 1:30, because that's the button I like pressing on the microwaves at work and also how long it takes me to set my stuff outside and get back in. Eat (hopefully) thawed vegetables.

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Post by Skid » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:11 am

Microwave is alien technology. I wouldn't eat microwave anything. Vegetables are meant to be steamed or sauteeed...

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Post by Allentown » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:17 am

Skid wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:11 am Microwave is alien technology. I wouldn't eat microwave anything. Vegetables are meant to be steamed or sauteeed...
We've got Mr. Never-Eats-Leftovers over here...

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Post by Skid » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:23 am

Allentown wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:17 am We've got Mr. Never-Eats-Leftovers over here...
My dogs eat the leftovers...

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Post by jake » Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:43 pm

KyleSchuant wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:36 pm Who the fuck wants to eat boiled broccoli?
The instant pot does a great job with broccoli. It gets cooked, but stays relatively crisp. Eating it everyday, you learn to like it. Then things like this become funny: https://www.reddit.com/r/broccoli/
broseph wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:09 pm Cooking spinach makes it a thousand percent easier to eat. Cook it in a covered pan with a couple tablespoons of water, and 3 cups of spinach becomes a small side dish. Just cook it till it shrinks down- don’t over heat.
+1. Recently made creamed spinach. Put too much cloves in it, but it reduced even further than cooked spinach - 20oz of spinach in two palm-sized portions (my palms are large-ish). The number of items to wash afterward was not worth the effort though.

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Post by CamLeslie » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:28 pm

Allentown wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:38 am Every time you open up the fridge, reach in, grab a big handful, and stuff it all into your mouth at once.
I do this and I call it gorilla style. I had this revelation the other day that this is probably the first time in history where people get to eat "what tastes good" all the time.

Veggies don't always taste great but think about how much better you are then everyone else. That's what I do.

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Post by cwd » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:38 pm

Skid wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:11 am Microwave is alien technology. I wouldn't eat microwave anything. Vegetables are meant to be steamed or sauteeed...
Microwaved veggies *are* steamed veggies. Put it in a bowl with a lid and set the timer correctly. EZPZ.

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Post by Allentown » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:05 am

Skid wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:23 am
Allentown wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:17 am We've got Mr. Never-Eats-Leftovers over here...
My dogs eat the leftovers...
Hopefully you are not on Keto.

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Post by Skid » Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:40 am

Allentown wrote: Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:05 am Hopefully you are not on Keto.
No, I eat a fairly balanced diet as I have a wife and 3 kids. The dogs do get the left overs and much prefer it to their normal dog food. They sure get excited when I dish it out:)

Still wouldn't use a microwave despite growing up with one. I suffered enough damage as a child when my mom would heat things up in old yoghurt containers and melt the plastic into my food... :o

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Post by PatrickDB » Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:09 am

I'm curious about how effective these Greens supplements are. We know, for example, that multivitamins don't really do anything in people eating a non-idiotic diet. So why would these?

My guess is that the health benefits of vegetables are not well captured by such supplements. (You're missing the fiber, for example.) I asked on the BBM forums and Jordan seems to agree.

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Post by hector » Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:32 am

Are you really better off eating vegetables? If I just have an extra burger and a multi-vitamin instead am I worse off?

I stopped eating vegetables a few months ago and still feel pretty awesome. And recently hit a deadlift PR.

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Post by Allentown » Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:38 am

hector wrote: Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:32 am Are you really better off eating vegetables? If I just have an extra burger and a multi-vitamin instead am I worse off?
An EXTRA burger, and no veggies? Probably? Burger+multi are not exactly matching the macros of vegetables (i.e. ~0 everything, some insoluble fiber). I guess I don't see why a person wouldn't eat a carrot now and then.

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Post by hector » Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:59 am

Allentown wrote: Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:38 am
hector wrote: Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:32 am Are you really better off eating vegetables? If I just have an extra burger and a multi-vitamin instead am I worse off?
An EXTRA burger, and no veggies? Probably? Burger+multi are not exactly matching the macros of vegetables (i.e. ~0 everything, some insoluble fiber). I guess I don't see why a person wouldn't eat a carrot now and then.
I guess you could have a carrot once in awhile, like when it's in a cake.

I'm just not sure I'm better off with the vegetable than I am with the extra burger. Performance and health wise, I don't feel worse off.

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Post by Allentown » Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:07 pm

hector wrote: Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:59 amI don't feel worse off.
To be fair, people with cancer can also not feel worse off.
I'm not suggesting in any way people become vegetarians or anything. But I am moderately confident that a few handfuls of vegetables a day at the extreme WORST is health neutral. Outside, like, choking. But also I'm pretty sure the number of people who choke and die on steak every year is far higher than the number of people who choke and die on vegetables.

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Post by hector » Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:14 pm

Allentown wrote: Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:07 pm
hector wrote: Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:59 amI don't feel worse off.
To be fair, people with cancer can also not feel worse off.
I'm not suggesting in any way people become vegetarians or anything. But I am moderately confident that a few handfuls of vegetables a day at the extreme WORST is health neutral. Outside, like, choking. But also I'm pretty sure the number of people who choke and die on steak every year is far higher than the number of people who choke and die on vegetables.
Yeah, the way I feel could be a lie.

What metric should I look at to see if I'm better/worse off with vegetables?

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Post by brkriete » Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:16 pm

I've been doing Blue Apron off and on for a while and it's taught me many ways to make veggies more palatable...keys for me are roasting / sautéing and adding some flavor, some combo of garlic, ginger, scallions, maybe a splash of vinegar makes spinach, kale, cabbage all pretty tasty. Turns out I really like roasted kale, for example, and I've been voluntarily eating cabbage sautéed with ginger and scallions a couple times a week.

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