Lat Prayers

[mbasic]

I was surprised by these. 15-20 years ago these were a made-up exercise by gym-tards, (the exercise didn't even have a name) and when I saw people do them I thought they were fucken gay, and/or didn't know what they were doing.

There were some machines that did a similar movement .... I thought those worked well. But those machines were/are rare to see in a gym

More recently, (say last 4-9 years) they seem to have gotten a name, and are more it fashion.

You get a hella lat pump, and probably that one head of the triceps too.
If I do higher reps, 10-15 tpyically, but lets say 15 ... its a lot of lactate, burning, and breathing, weird, I almost get sick to my stomach.

I highly recommend you try them .... as a finisher thing of course, but even as your 2nd lat/row movement.
Thought I share ...

[DCR]

I always knew these as straight arm pressdowns / pushdowns. Never did them because always seemed like a fourth or fifth choice but had no idea there was anything controversial about them.

That said, “regular” pushdowns have fallen out of ny rotation for no good reason, but I do them letting the bar / my arms come well up, to get that one tricep head as you say. Doing pushdowns (or conversely, curls) with “elbows attached to your sides” misses out on a lot of good stuff IMO.

[OverheadDeadlifts]

I like doing them single arm since I can play around with the angle more and get a stretch in the Lat easier. Also run into less balance issues, they start to feel kinda shitty when the weight gets a bit higher and you’re being pulled forward.

Also worth trying them with a loop around the wrist rather than holding on to a handle. I feel it less in the long head of the triceps and more focused on the lats that way.

Definitely prefer them to pullovers for lat isolation. I barely feel pullovers in my lats at all and my shoulders don’t enjoy them either.

[AlanMackey]

I always called those "cable pullovers".

[acorn93]

That muscle mommy with the barn door back seemed to be enjoying them quite a lot.

[Allentown]

That muscle mommy with the barn door back seemed to be enjoying them quite a lot.

But which one? There are so many! Which one in particular?

[unlimitedgains]

I did something like this, but unilateral for a while, it was fine, but I found it pretty awkward to get a good stretch. Given all the lengthened partial hype I'd think pullovers with a dumbbell or bar would be a better choice.

If you go to youtube you can find throwers doing them super heavy.

[dw]

Never tried them but they seem perfectly reasonable to me. Isn't it the same as a dumbbell pullover?

[broseph]

I tried these a couple years ago- the standing cable version.

I didn’t like the “force curve” and found I had to change my torso angle during the movement to accommodate.

Dumbbell pullovers seem way better.