Let's go to war or not: Iran Edition

[GlasgowJock]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog ... nniversary

prolly CIA operatives /s

Iranian backed Houthi attacks on international shipping/ Western capitalism was likely to draw the ire of someone when their proxies decided to up the ante recently.

Faced with sending maritime freight around the Cape? Hard nope.

[mbasic]

President dude died in a "plane crash".
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... ane-crash/


I wish I had the internet skills to edit up a"welcome to heaven meme"....
...but with Prigozhin, a couple of Boeing employees, Epstien, etc. welcoming him.

[5hout]

President dude died in a "plane crash".
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... ane-crash/


I wish I had the internet skills to edit up a"welcome to heaven meme"....
...but with Prigozhin, a couple of Boeing employees, Epstien, etc. welcoming him.

I can't tell if Mossad is getting sneakier or it's just further reasons to "never get in a helicopter again".

[mbasic]

President dude died in a "plane crash".
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... ane-crash/


I wish I had the internet skills to edit up a"welcome to heaven meme"....
...but with Prigozhin, a couple of Boeing employees, Epstien, etc. welcoming him.

I can't tell if Mossad is getting sneakier or it's just further reasons to "never get in a helicopter again".

Its funny .....

Helicopters ARE kinda fussy to begin with in the first place.
I bet the odds of a legitimate accident are worse than fixed wing.

Was foggy, etc. sounds like a Kobe Bryant thing. Flying into some Cumulus Granite.

And ....again .... Iran (pilots, aero-mechanics, maintenance, etc)

If Mossuad, I wonder if they take stuff like this into consideration when they strike?

Accident waiting to happen? Here, let me help you with that

[5hout]

Its funny .....

Helicopters ARE kinda fussy to begin with in the first place.
I bet the odds of a legitimate accident are worse than fixed wing.

Was foggy, etc. sounds like a Kobe Bryant thing. Flying into some Cumulus Granite.

And ....again .... Iran (pilots, aero-mechanics, maintenance, etc)

If Mossuad, I wonder if they take stuff like this into consideration when they strike?

Accident waiting to happen? Here, let me help you with that

Who knows? I'm it's something nuanced like for stuff where they want to make a point they go #ClassicMossad and for other stuff they are actually super sneaky. They don't seem noted for stealth, but of course you'd never hear if they were and this is the kind of inflammatory thing you'd actually want to have a sneak (vs having motorcycles stick bombs to his car before zooming off).

[dw]

Meh, accidents happen.

Admittedly assassinations do too. But I wouldn't take for granted that this is even a desirable outcome for Israel. It's not like these leaders are irreplaceable.

Also I have no idea but would Israel really want to risk outright war with Iran, which would seem to be the likely outcome if they were caught assassinating its president?

[mikeylikey]

I wouldn't take for granted that this is even a desirable outcome for Israel.

I don't think they're sad about it.

[5hout]

I wouldn't take for granted that this is even a desirable outcome for Israel.

I don't think they're sad about it.

I think the question is (calling back to the We Killed Yamamoto plotline on the West Wing) "it only counts if you get caught in a way that the public cares about". Iran calls SO MANY people spies that even if they say "5 spies were onsite with the maintenance crew before takeoff" and produce 'proof' of their being spies, I don't think it moves the needle. Too much plausible deniability either way (both in terms of Iran routinely falsely claiming people are spies, ease of manufacturing evidence and also these fucking things crash all the time anyway).

I'm neutral on the idea, it seems somewhat likely (40% or greater), but we'll probably never know.

[dw]

I wouldn't take for granted that this is even a desirable outcome for Israel.

I don't think they're sad about it.

So your opinion is that Israel prefers his successor?