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Above vertical? Do you mean horizontal? There's very few people that could do verticalchrisd wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:27 pmYes, yes we should.nealstar wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:22 am A lot of folks try to get in near as much shoulder extension as shoulder flexion. I don't mean to "balance" the movement patterns for "shoulder health" or whatever. I just mean folks tend to keep a fair amount of horizontal and/or vertical pulling in their programs
But I never hear anyone talking about getting in a lot of hip flexion despite all the hip extension work we do. Should we all be doing more Leg Raises or whatnot alongside our Squats and Deads?
You think you're all big and strong and then you have to do a simple thing like raise a leg in the air and suddenly it's really hard. Some small person does it and you're all like
"Oh well it's easy for you because you're light whereas I have these really big strong muscles that are really heavy"
Fact is, you just aren't as strong as you thought you were.
A simple standing leg raise above vertical should not be too much of a challenge. Weighted versions can be done with a cable machine and the ankle loop. Be sure to maintain good posture and put one hand on your hip as you point your toes.
Oops, yeah horizontal. I thought it was the stupid answers thread.JFick wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:42 pmAbove vertical? Do you mean horizontal? There's very few people that could do verticalchrisd wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:27 pmYes, yes we should.nealstar wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:22 am A lot of folks try to get in near as much shoulder extension as shoulder flexion. I don't mean to "balance" the movement patterns for "shoulder health" or whatever. I just mean folks tend to keep a fair amount of horizontal and/or vertical pulling in their programs
But I never hear anyone talking about getting in a lot of hip flexion despite all the hip extension work we do. Should we all be doing more Leg Raises or whatnot alongside our Squats and Deads?
You think you're all big and strong and then you have to do a simple thing like raise a leg in the air and suddenly it's really hard. Some small person does it and you're all like
"Oh well it's easy for you because you're light whereas I have these really big strong muscles that are really heavy"
Fact is, you just aren't as strong as you thought you were.
A simple standing leg raise above vertical should not be too much of a challenge. Weighted versions can be done with a cable machine and the ankle loop. Be sure to maintain good posture and put one hand on your hip as you point your toes.
That would be nothing but, "get your Deadlift to 800" answers.chrisd wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:23 amOops, yeah horizontal. I thought it was the stupid answers thread.JFick wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:42 pmAbove vertical? Do you mean horizontal? There's very few people that could do verticalchrisd wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:27 pmYes, yes we should.nealstar wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:22 am A lot of folks try to get in near as much shoulder extension as shoulder flexion. I don't mean to "balance" the movement patterns for "shoulder health" or whatever. I just mean folks tend to keep a fair amount of horizontal and/or vertical pulling in their programs
But I never hear anyone talking about getting in a lot of hip flexion despite all the hip extension work we do. Should we all be doing more Leg Raises or whatnot alongside our Squats and Deads?
You think you're all big and strong and then you have to do a simple thing like raise a leg in the air and suddenly it's really hard. Some small person does it and you're all like
"Oh well it's easy for you because you're light whereas I have these really big strong muscles that are really heavy"
Fact is, you just aren't as strong as you thought you were.
A simple standing leg raise above vertical should not be too much of a challenge. Weighted versions can be done with a cable machine and the ankle loop. Be sure to maintain good posture and put one hand on your hip as you point your toes.
You could try a different rep scheme, especially if you have 2 curl days. I like 8-12 one day and 12-15 another day, with the heavier one being either DB curls or barbell curls, and the lighter one being cable curls.jcw wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:35 am Possibly even stupid(er) question -- those who do DB curls, how do you program them? I've been doing sets of 12-15 on the straight barbell out of habit. Do I just do 12-15 each arm with DBs, or should I try a different scheme too, if I'm already switching up the method?
I like to keep rep ranges and set count constant. I do 5x12-15 and get a massive pump. As soon as that stops I'll switch to 3-4 sets of 8-10, adding a rep or a pound or two until I can't anymore and switch back 5x12-15.jcw wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:35 am Possibly even stupid(er) question -- those who do DB curls, how do you program them? I've been doing sets of 12-15 on the straight barbell out of habit. Do I just do 12-15 each arm with DBs, or should I try a different scheme too, if I'm already switching up the method?
I like the myoreps-ish (12, 5, 5, 5, 4, 4, 3, 2, stop, count total and log it) and density block (timer = 8min, 12, rest 30s, 8, rest 30, 6, rest 45, 6, rest 60, 5... count total and log it) because I'm lacking in creativity, but also dislike resting for 90ish seconds on dumb shit like biceps and triceps pushdowns.jcw wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:35 am Possibly even stupid(er) question -- those who do DB curls, how do you program them? I've been doing sets of 12-15 on the straight barbell out of habit. Do I just do 12-15 each arm with DBs, or should I try a different scheme too, if I'm already switching up the method?
I forget the specifics, but Robert Santana made some bone-headed/preposterous claim about a very expensive lifting lifting shoe (I think with 137 as a model designation). Following that, "137" became associated with all things lame and fey.
it was 727
How does an article that talks about Pauli and the fine structure constant not mention that he died in room 137? Story goes he was in the hospital after surgery for cancer and when he woke up from the anesthesia and realized what room he was in said something along "When I saw the number, I knew I wasn't leaving this room".Ragholmes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:04 pm I thought 137 was one of the older internet memes? Something about elite something something leet something 1337 something 137.
Would not be surprised if I've mixed things up in my head and then made it true.
ETA: so I did some googling and didn't get very far down the rabbit hole before I became paralyzed by fear and foreboding.
For a moment I thought you meant 'break up' and I was going to suggest not turning up for performances and stuff.
When I was at my biggest and strongest, I didn't do any vertical pulling for 4-5 years. I couldn't do pull-ups because they hurt my shoulder, and I couldn't supinate enough to avoid flaring up my forearms to chin. We didn't have a pulldown machine, so horizontal rowing it was.hoyeahtop wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:21 am At the moment I’m in a position where I’m only going to be able to do horizontal rows. In the not so near future I think I’ll be able to either get a pull-up bar or go rock climbing once/twice a fortnight which Id use as a chance to use their pull-up bars.
But it made me think of the hypothetical question: what would your back look like only doing horizontal pulling?
Anyone do this?